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Ashes squad

Jack Torrance said:
Reaction on here will be great when Bairstow and Buttler are at 5 & 6 first test
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I'm comfortable for Buttler as keeper here, despite getting pelters for calling him out years ago, as if any conditions in the world should suit him it's a Kookaburra ball in Oz.
Voice of fair play said:
I don’t think Australia currently a great side and think it will be closer than the 5 0 some are predicting but obviously they are favourites
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They have gaps in their batting line up, certainly, but they have an attack which is at least two levels above anything we have. Cummings, Hazlewood and Lyon are different class and I'm not sure we can bat long enough to wear them down.
 
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NorthCountryBoy said:
Its marginal gains though. Even if he’ll average you, say, an extra three over a ten match period it’s worth doing. Plus his keeping is excellent, albeit less relevant when keeping to seamers in Oz.

All England can do is play the cards they have and while no gun top order player is waiting in the wings the number 7 spot is fair to debate.
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he wouldn’t though

it’s an smb obsession it’s really weird
cooky said:
:lol: Think that is almost guaranteed aswell. Think it will be a long old series :lol: With Archer and Stokes out I genuinely think there is only Root who gets in their side in Aus conditions.
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Eh!

wekl that’s not true

there’s absolutely no way Tim Paine gets im England’s side
 
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chunkylover53 said:
I’ll say it again. Fine for either at 7. But not both and not at 5 and 6
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One will have to play 6 unless Woakes is batting there. I think I read the plans for the 5th test against India were Buttler back at 6 and Bairstow at 5 which is harsh after Pope made an 80 in previous game.

For what it’s worth I think Buttler might do well in their conditions
 
Jack Torrance said:
One will have to play 6 unless Woakes is batting there. I think I read the plans for the 5th test against India were Buttler back at 6 and Bairstow at 5 which is harsh after Pope made an 80 in previous game.

For what it’s worth I think Buttler might do well in their conditions
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I think they will do that, but I disagree with it sadly
 
The Rat said:
he wouldn’t though

it’s an smb obsession it’s really weird


Eh!

wekl that’s not true

there’s absolutely no way Tim Paine gets im England’s side
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Maybe Buttler or Bairstow over Paine then but don't think its clearcut in Aus. Wouldn't know all their test averages off the top of my head but I imagine there may not be much in it.
 
cooky said:
Maybe Buttler or Bairstow over Paine then but don't think its clearcut in Aus. Wouldn't know all their test averages off the top of my head but I imagine there may not be much in it.
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it is

bairstow made ad many 100s in the last ashes in Australia than Paine has in his whole first class career

no need for the hyperbole mate that’s just not true
 
The Rat said:
it is

bairstow made ad many 100s in the last ashes in Australia than Paine has in his whole first class career

no need for the hyperbole mate that’s just not true
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What is the difference in test averages? No doubt in my mind Buttler and Bairstow are more 'talented' but I bet there isn't much difference in the bare results. No doubt Buttler and Bairstow have more proper scores but they also have a hell of a lot of single figures.
 
cooky said:
What is the difference in test averages? No doubt in my mind Buttler and Bairstow are more 'talented' but I bet there isn't much difference in the bare results. No doubt Buttler and Bairstow have more proper scores but they also have a hell of a lot of single figures.
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who cares? He’s played most of his test cricket in Australia

he’s shite

people are far too harsh on some of our players like
 
The Rat said:
who cares? He’s played most of his test cricket in Australia

he’s shite

people are far too harsh on some of our players like
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Well I mean average is a fairly important discussion isn't? I agree he is fairly poor but so are Bairstow and Buttler aren't they? My point was more the only clear cut player the Aussies would have is Root. That's not to say you can't argue the case for one of Bairstow/Buttler over Paine or Anderson over Starc but it's hardly set in stone in Australian conditions.
 
The Rat said:
it is

bairstow made ad many 100s in the last ashes in Australia than Paine has in his whole first class career

no need for the hyperbole mate that’s just not true
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That’s just not true

Paine has 3 first class tons

and if you’re using that argument, then Buttler never gets picked
The Rat said:
who cares? He’s played most of his test cricket in Australia

he’s shite

people are far too harsh on some of our players like
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Again not true. Over half his innings have been overseas.

i personally think Paine is shite, and a wanker, but don’t make stuff up
 
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chunkylover53 said:
That’s just not true

Paine has 3 first class tons

and if you’re using that argument, then Buttler never gets picked

Again not true. Over half his innings have been overseas.

i personally think Paine is shite, and a wanker, but don’t make stuff up
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Well he had 1 for about 10 years

you're wrong like sorry, people suggeting he woild get in England's side are just lying

again the SMB's obsession with the number 7 slot is truly strange.
cooky said:
Well I mean average is a fairly important discussion isn't? I agree he is fairly poor but so are Bairstow and Buttler aren't they? My point was more the only clear cut player the Aussies would have is Root. That's not to say you can't argue the case for one of Bairstow/Buttler over Paine or Anderson over Starc but it's hardly set in stone in Australian conditions.
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its really not like mate, there is absolitely no debate than they'd walk in Aussies side

the australian's would absolutely love Bairstow

he is just disliked my a new numbskulls on here because he has a bit of fire

I think only Stewart and Prior average more than JB at 7 for England as keeper, and they are our 2 best ever.
TheRey said:
And inevitably fail.
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Just like Foakes in India then
anyway

can we move on from that nonsense

who is everyon'es attack first test

I guess it feels like they will play Woakes at number 7 doesnt it without Stokes

I dont think it is ideal but I kind of think with our attack without a few players, we do need 5 bowlers like

Its either that or we play 4 quicks with Root and spin

I want Leach in, but we cant play 3 quicks and just Leach

so its either Woakes at 7 or 4 quicks, what you going for? Torn here.
 
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The Rat said:
Well he had 1 for about 10 years

you're wrong like sorry, people suggeting he woild get in England's side are just lying

again the SMB's obsession with the number 7 slot is truly strange.


its really not like mate, there is absolitely no debate than they'd walk in Aussies side

the australian's would absolutely love Bairstow

he is just disliked my a new numbskulls on here because he has a bit of fire

I think only Stewart and Prior average more than JB at 7 for England as keeper, and they are our 2 best ever.


Just like Foakes in India then
anyway

can we move on from that nonsense

who is everyon'es attack first test

I guess it feels like they will play Woakes at number 7 doesnt it without Stokes

I dont think it is ideal but I kind of think with our attack without a few players, we do need 5 bowlers like

Its either that or we play 4 quicks with Root and spin

I want Leach in, but we cant play 3 quicks and just Leach

so its either Woakes at 7 or 4 quicks, what you going for? Torn here.
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There's absolutely no chance you're keeping out of trouble til the Ashes lad :lol: :lol:
 
The Rat said:
Well he had 1 for about 10 years

you're wrong like sorry, people suggeting he woild get in England's side are just lying

again the SMB's obsession with the number 7 slot is truly strange.


its really not like mate, there is absolitely no debate than they'd walk in Aussies side

the australian's would absolutely love Bairstow

he is just disliked my a new numbskulls on here because he has a bit of fire

I think only Stewart and Prior average more than JB at 7 for England as keeper, and they are our 2 best ever.


Just like Foakes in India then
anyway

can we move on from that nonsense

who is everyon'es attack first test

I guess it feels like they will play Woakes at number 7 doesnt it without Stokes

I dont think it is ideal but I kind of think with our attack without a few players, we do need 5 bowlers like

Its either that or we play 4 quicks with Root and spin

I want Leach in, but we cant play 3 quicks and just Leach

so its either Woakes at 7 or 4 quicks, what you going for? Torn here.
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Given the squad we have chosen Woakes is going to play most of the series as an all rounder so yeah he bats 7.

Woakes
Robinson
Wood
Leach
Anderson

Probably strongest attack we can put out
 
The Rat said:
Well he had 1 for about 10 years

you're wrong like sorry, people suggeting he woild get in England's side are just lying

again the SMB's obsession with the number 7 slot is truly strange.


its really not like mate, there is absolitely no debate than they'd walk in Aussies side

the australian's would absolutely love Bairstow

he is just disliked my a new numbskulls on here because he has a bit of fire

I think only Stewart and Prior average more than JB at 7 for England as keeper, and they are our 2 best ever.


Just like Foakes in India then
anyway

can we move on from that nonsense

who is everyon'es attack first test

I guess it feels like they will play Woakes at number 7 doesnt it without Stokes

I dont think it is ideal but I kind of think with our attack without a few players, we do need 5 bowlers like

Its either that or we play 4 quicks with Root and spin

I want Leach in, but we cant play 3 quicks and just Leach

so its either Woakes at 7 or 4 quicks, what you going for? Torn here.
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Burns
Hameed
Malan
Root
Pope
Buttler
Woakes
Wood
Leach
Robinson
Anderson
 
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