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BIllingham Black Cat said:
It’s a really genuine offer. I am SAFC for over 50 years and someone has challenged that. He or she does not have to risk a penny of his own money, just prove his claim that I am a Mag and some charity will receive the cash. What’s not to like about that?
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I meant your opening gambit. I couldn’t give a shite about money.
 
woodlebert said:
I'm not a Newcastle fan. I don't think opposing clubs are going to chant about Saudi Arabia or boo the owners or whatever. I don't think it will resonate with them
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HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO A FOOTBALL MATCH?...of course the fans will chant anything that gets at the opposition! just look at the Boro its been 35 years since the discredited test used by a paediatrician misdiagnosed loads of sexual abuse cases around the boro area ................ what chants do we get when we play them? lets guess shall we !In 20 years time there will still be somebody at a derby game (I hope they do return ) wearing a horsed head with a bloody bandage around his jaw !Anything that annoys the opposition will stick and if im being honest chopping a bloke up into pieces is something you aint going to forget in a hurry.
 
oddbod said:
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO A FOOTBALL MATCH?...of course the fans will chant anything that gets at the opposition! just look at the Boro its been 35 years since the discredited test used by a paediatrician misdiagnosed loads of sexual abuse cases around the boro area ................ what chants do we get when we play them? lets guess shall we !In 20 years time there will still be somebody at a derby game (I hope they do return ) wearing a horsed head with a bloody bandage around his jaw !Anything that annoys the opposition will stick and if im being honest chopping a bloke up into pieces is something you aint going to forget in a hurry.
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Yes I meant the country more generally, all of your examples there are derbies to a degree. For instance, Southampton v Newcastle. I can't see many Southampton fans going for the Saudi Arabian link.
 
Skellington said:
It’s now pretty obvious that the mags supporters trusts and various other groups and politicians were lying when they said that they would raise human rights issues, so there won’t be even the smallest amount of dissent from them. This is a shame, because it would be interesting to see how the Saudis deal with it. They are quite obviously far more intolerant of criticism than our leaders have to be in this country.

At the moment there is an unpleasant situation around Ronaldo at Man United, and the PL, sky sports, and Man United are following the tried and trusted British method of simply ignoring what is right in front of their faces. At some point things may change and they’ll have to acknowledge it, at which point everyone will pretend to be shocked and horrified. That’s how we do these things in this country.

That is not how they do things in countries like Saudi Arabia. They are extremely sensitive to any dissent, and it is swiftly dealt with. Khasshogi is the obvious example, but also worth noting that the women who campaigned (successfully) for the right to drive were jailed, and I think are still there. Teenagers who protested against the regime face the death penalty. How would a country like that react to protests involving the football team they are using for propaganda purposes?

China’s reaction to criticism of their under 20 side may give us some indication. A few years ago, their under 20s were playing the first game on a tour of Germany, when it became clear that there were 6 Tibetan flags in a crowd of 400, and they might be visible on Chinese tv. This resulted in the game being delayed for half an hour while the flags were removed. The rest of the tour was cancelled and the Chinese side went home.

So how would the Saudis react if their propaganda project began to attract even a small degree of that sort of criticism?

There won’t be much protesting at St James’, but 50% of their teams matches are away matches. Could the next atrocity / international outrage act as a spark for opposing fans to protest against the mags owners? Can guarantee that the Saudis won’t be prepared for the sort of football banter that the mags themselves showed at Old Trafford this season.

If they did face any sustained criticism of that nature, I think they’d pack up and leave. They won’t fund a propaganda project if it becomes a focal point for criticism of their regime.

Seems unlikely at this exact moment, but there’s still a small chance that this could unravel in the most hilarious fashion imo.
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If only there was a massive message board full of supporters who are less than keen on the Jihadi Geordies who have been more than capable of getting organized……
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
Having to borrow suggests there's not a lot. At current interest rates, an investment fund carrying large amounts of cash isn't doing a very good job. PIF's job is to replace reducing oil revenues and support the House of Saud. It needs to generate substantial income returns and capital growth to do that. Large cash balances do neither.
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for not having any liquid cash theyve found 300 million from somewhere..
 
Wow, probably SEB but I’m sure theyll be welcomed with open arms in any Saudi based pre season tournament.
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