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NUFC/Sportwashing

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jlaws said:
Key point - PiF are a fund.

Manchester United are worth approx 4.2m USD and so are trading at an excess of 6x revenue. Likewise Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and City. There is no upside in buying those clubs.

NUFC's revenue is c150m and so if sold they are going for only 2 x revenue. Smarten the place up, improve the governance structure, grow commercially and get in top half and you are looking at a significant return.
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Probably one of the most appealing buys in the Premiership
 
HarrogateMackem said:
Lets be honest, we're going through every fans worst nightmare. At least United were class when City were taken over, while Chelsea have little real rivals etc. Our rivals are about to be catapulted into ridiculous wealth, which is more then likely to translate into some form of success in the mid to long term. We could easily end up like Torino with Juve, Utrecht with Ajax or Espanyol with Barca.
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Underdogs. :cool:
 
The Fish said:
How much would it cost to buy Man Utd? £3bn? vs £300m on us?
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It’s going to take years to turn you around and will end up costing billions to do so. Man Utd are already there both on and off the pitch . They are the biggest club in world football, have the most prestige and all the history you could ever want .
No matter what you achieve , ManUtd will always be bigger and that is why I would spend big now instead of waiting years to develop you .
 
HarrogateMackem said:
Lets be honest, we're going through every fans worst nightmare. At least United were class when City were taken over, while Chelsea have little real rivals etc. Our rivals are about to be catapulted into ridiculous wealth, which is more then likely to translate into some form of success in the mid to long term. We could easily end up like Torino with Juve, Utrecht with Ajax or Espanyol with Barca.
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No chance. They’ll have to pay way way over the odds to persuade any genuinely top players to join them over the next 3 years, and there’s only so much money over the odds you can pay thanks to FFP. They could also get relegated and there’s little the new ownership can do about that as attracting players in January when in bottom 3 is a mammoth task. They’ll get rid of Bruce instantly I imagine but could be worst thing to happen to them if the replacement is so some foreigner with a decent sounding name and little premier league experience.
 
palm 1 said:
It’s going to take years to turn you around and will end up costing billions to do so. Man Utd are already there both on and off the pitch . They are the biggest club in world football, have the most prestige and all the history you could ever want .
No matter what you achieve , ManUtd will always be bigger and that is why I would spend big now instead of waiting years to develop you .
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@jlaws said it better just up there ^^
 
It's a pisser, no question about that for me. Who knows though, for the Saudis this is just one more investment in their massive portfolio, for the Kid it's absolutely everything.
 
palm 1 said:
It’s going to take years to turn you around and will end up costing billions to do so. Man Utd are already there both on and off the pitch . They are the biggest club in world football, have the most prestige and all the history you could ever want .
No matter what you achieve , ManUtd will always be bigger and that is why I would spend big now instead of waiting years to develop you .
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That’s why this notion of them spending billions on the team is not going to materialise. They could have bought Liverpool, United, Tottenham or Arsenal and the money needed to spend on the team isn’t huge. For the mags there’s only ASM who would even make a matchday squad for a big 6 club, they effectively need 15 new top quality players, and ship out mediocre players who are on very long term contracts.
 
The Man City owners have spent a fortune in the area in general developments, unlimited spending is allowed irrespective of turnover,is that correct.
 
0321safc said:
No chance. They’ll have to pay way way over the odds to persuade any genuinely top players to join them over the next 3 years, and there’s only so much money over the odds you can pay thanks to FFP. They could also get relegated and there’s little the new ownership can do about that as attracting players in January when in bottom 3 is a mammoth task. They’ll get rid of Bruce instantly I imagine but could be worst thing to happen to them if the replacement is so some foreigner with a decent sounding name and little premier league experience.
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I’m trying to think of a realistic manager choice who will come in for Bruce (as it’s fairly obvious they’ll peddle him as the fans & players will demand it). I can’t see a genuine big hitter being interested at the minute, especially part-way through the season.

Eddie Howe perhaps?
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
Same. I’ve some good and sensible Mag mates who’s moral compasses are usually well pointed. But they’re all over the place with this. Some really wonderful moral circumnavigation going on.
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The mental contortions some of them are going through to try and make this fit is quite a thing to behold. Be better if they stopped trying to make excuses for it. They really don’t care about the human rights abuses, the funding of terrorism, the murders, the bombing of yemen and the humanitarian disaster that’s created. As long as they spend more money on transfers than anyone else it’s all fine and dandy. This is what they’ve actively campaigned for remember.
 
HarrogateMackem said:
Lets be honest, we're going through every fans worst nightmare. At least United were class when City were taken over, while Chelsea have little real rivals etc. Our rivals are about to be catapulted into ridiculous wealth, which is more then likely to translate into some form of success in the mid to long term. We could easily end up like Torino with Juve, Utrecht with Ajax or Espanyol with Barca.
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Interesting analogies. I have always taken Torino over Juve and Espanyol over Barca! Must be something in a Sunderland fan's psyche?

They won feck all in the 90's with only Arsenal and Utd as competition and they will win feck all again.
 
richest said:
The Man City owners have spent a fortune in the area in general developments, unlimited spending is allowed irrespective of turnover,is that correct.
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City basically spent their way to the top before the net closed in on crazy spending. Once they reached that level of being a elite club playing champions league football it made it easier to skirt around regulations, get money in and Ofcourse be able to attract the top players.
 
0321safc said:
No chance. They’ll have to pay way way over the odds to persuade any genuinely top players to join them over the next 3 years, and there’s only so much money over the odds you can pay thanks to FFP. They could also get relegated and there’s little the new ownership can do about that as attracting players in January when in bottom 3 is a mammoth task. They’ll get rid of Bruce instantly I imagine but could be worst thing to happen to them if the replacement is so some foreigner with a decent sounding name and little premier league experience.
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FFP is bollocks though isn't it. City and PSG have proved that.
 
palm 1 said:
That’s what I can’t understand? Why Newcastle when they could buy a much more prestigious club both here and abroad . This is probably the one hope I have that they are not going to go all out .
The club I would buy in that position would be Man Utd . They already have the players and the history and would instantly raise their countries’s profile .
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The Premier League is where it's at. It's by far the most popular league globally. There are individual clubs outside the premier league in major European cities that can generate similar appeal, but they are either already owned by multi billionaire types or just not possible to buy in the same way due to either league rules and/or club ownership structures. They weren't going to be able to buy Bayern Munich or Barcelona.

Sadly for us, Newcastle are probably the biggest English club not already owned by extremely wealthy investors.
 
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