Put a flat earthier into space

[Nukehasslefan]

Would the light reflection not become distorted if the dome wasn’t smooth?

What do you mean by distorted?

 

[DPTT]

What do you mean by distorted?

Well if the dome wasn’t smooth then the reflection would not be consistent. Light would reflect at different angles

 

[Harry Angstrom]

The dome and central crystals.

The light comes from a single source? The crystals (I assume)

The dome is curved in such a way that it alters the light beaming down onto the ground. The dome curvature is constantly moving and the reflection of the dome is constantly changing every second in a daily and annual cycle?

Or does light bend over the distance it has travelled from the crystal to the stick?

Well if the dome wasn’t smooth then the reflection would not be consistent. Light would reflect at different angles

Hence the shadows of different lengths. It is starting to make sense.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Well if the dome wasn’t smooth then the reflection would not be consistent. Light would reflect at different angles

Why?

 

[Toronado]

Its amazing isnt it, to be able to see many other planets and satellites in our solar system that are unquestionably globes and yet we have so many ‘ intelligent ‘ people on our little planet thinking we’re the special odd ones out that live on something thats blooming flat !

 

[Nukehasslefan]

The light comes from a single source? The crystals (I assume)

It comes through the crystals from a deeper centralised carbon arc system.

The dome is curved in such a way that it alters the light beaming down onto the ground.

Yes but dependent on the angle of light that hts it from the centralised crystals.

The dome curvature is constantly moving and the reflection of the dome is constantly changing every second in a daily and annual cycle?

The dome doesn't move around. It slightly alters shape as the sun energy hits it at each point as the sun energy moves around and over it.

Or does light bend over the distance it has travelled from the crystal to the stick?

The travel is a shooting gallery from the crystals to the dome and the major return comes for the initial source of the energy reflection of the sun back to the Earth terrain at an angle for some and less of an angle for others as it moves over and around.

 

[ned_werby]

mad as a box of frogs

 

[Harry Angstrom]

It comes through the crystals from a deeper centralised carbon arc system.

Yes but dependent on the angle of light that hts it from the centralised crystals.

The dome doesn't move around. It slightly alters shape as the sun energy hits it at each point as the sun energy moves around and over it.


The travel is a shooting gallery from the crystals to the dome and the major return comes for the initial source of the energy reflection of the sun back to the Earth terrain at an angle for some and less of an angle for others as it moves over and around.

Is there one light source?
Does light travel in a straight line?
Is the dome constantly rippling in a constant but cyclical manner to ensure the light hits the stick to give differing lengths of shadow that are different at all points in the world at all times but are constant over the annual cycle?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Its amazing isnt it, to be able to see many other planets and satellites in our solar system that are unquestionably globes and yet we have so many ‘ intelligent ‘ people on our little planet thinking we’re the special odd ones out that live on something thats blooming flat !

There could be trillions and trillions of Earth's like ours but we won't see them with our garbage vision.
What you see in the sky are merely lights. You do not see planets. You are told they're planets.

mad as a box of frogs

I don't think you are.

 

[Harry Angstrom]

mad as a box of frogs

I think I have the stick/shadow thing sorted in my head but need a few things clarifying.

 

[DPTT]

Why?

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Would reflection not be like Figure 2 on this link?

 

[DaveH]

How bout telling me the stars they're using to go south.
As I say that Understand my dome model and understand the points of light moving over and around it.

So my centre is the place where all light comes from. You know it as your north pole on your globe.
So, starting from your north poleich you believe is under the north pole at the bottom of your ball Earth, which stars are you using to follow that path?

In terms of what I go with, there is no south pole but there is an opposite to the north on the compass which is claimed as south on your global Earth.

Now here's the key. If I was to aim for a certain part of Earth from the compass north to south in one direction I would need to follow a south point to the accuracy of that point without deviation. Could I do that without hitting land and where do I end up?

Soooo, if I follow the points of light like you believe is being followed for a globe, I'll get the same places you get to by following your points of light towards the south you believe, yet, instead of you going over a curve you're going around a circle by following a star that you think goes over a globe.

The thing is, the going round the circle is not in your face. It's point to point if you follow your points of light, until those points of light disappear from view as they move over and around the circle.

That is a nice vague description of the world you think you live in, but what I asked was how does it work?

To be more specific, you are a navigator on an ancient sailing vessel going from Southampton to New York. To hit the port on time without having to cruise up and down the coast looking for it, you navigate using the stars at night and come in bang on target. What do you measure, what do you use to make that measurement and how does that tell you where you are?

Then the big question is why? We are told that these navigation techniques work, we have historical evidence that they work, but what is actually going on here? We are told how a petrol engine works and for those inclined they can take it apart and see. We clearly can't take the world apart but how do we think for ourselves, work out what is actually going on and investigate the mechanics of how the ancient navigators did this?

 

[Toronado]

There could be trillions and trillions of Earth's like ours but we won't see them with our garbage vision.
What you see in the sky are merely lights. You do not see planets. You are told they're planets.

I don't think you are.

Could be ?!? The possibility of something doesnt really do much against being able to see globe planets and satellites even with your own eyes at times nevermind telescopes and the likes ! you talk of possibilities there but has there ever been any images recorded of a flat planet anywhere in any system in the universe ?!??

what do you mean ‘ merely lights ‘ and ‘ you do not see planets ‘

are you just needing someone to launch a git big tree up and smash the screen dome upon which these ‘ lights ‘ are shown on a like in Godzilla vs King Kong ?!?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Is there one light source?

Yes from the centre.

Does light travel in a straight line?

The light envelopes areas by angle due to ever changing atmospheric layers back to the ground.

Is the dome constantly rippling in a constant but cyclical manner to ensure the light hits the stick to give differing lengths of shadow that are different at all points in the world at all times but are constant over the annual cycle?

It could be construed as constantly rippling due to the other smaller points of energy hitting it but very minor compared to the major central sun energy moving over and around it.

Inside the Earth the energy from the carbon arc will be moving up and down as energy feeds and is spent continually. Acting like an electromagnet pushing super carbon up and down.

The energy changes through the crystal in terms of angle which in turn alters the angle on the dome which in turn changes the pressure on that part of the dome further down a little and then back up a little.

 

[DaveH]

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Would reflection not be like Figure 2 on this link?

Yes, that is now light reflection works. So because we know there are parts of the world where at certain times the sun is directly overhead and no shadow, all you need to do is find a shape where you can fire light up from ground level and have it hit ground the ground somewhere else, coming straight down. Find that and you have a shape (and possible size) of the dome.

I can't find one that works.

 

[Harry Angstrom]

Yes from the centre.

The light envelopes areas by angle due to ever changing atmospheric layers back to the ground.


It could be construed as constantly rippling due to the other smaller points of energy hitting it but very minor compared to the major central sun energy moving over and around it.

Inside the Earth the energy from the carbon arc will be moving up and down as energy feeds and is spent continually. Acting like an electromagnet pushing super carbon up and down.

The energy changes through the crystal in terms of angle which in turn alters the angle on the dome which in turn changes the pressure on that part of the dome further down a little and then back up a little.

I'm lost.

Why does the stick's shadow length and angle differ on where the stick is and what time of day and year it is?

Yes, that is now light reflection works. So because we know there are parts of the world where at certain times the sun is directly overhead and no shadow, all you need to do is find a shape where you can fire light up from ground level and have it hit ground the ground somewhere else, coming straight down. Find that and you have a shape (and possible size) of the dome.

I can't find one that works.

Sorry but the dome size cannot be measured.

 

[payne]

I'm lost.

Why does the stick's shadow length and angle differ on where the stick is and what time of day and year it is?

Sorry but the dome size cannot be measured.

It's basically the Truman Show. Whomever constructed the dome programmed the mainframe to tell the projector when to shine certain lights and stuff. It was also programmed to adapt to apply new lights and structures to the mirror when the narrative needed to be hyped up to keep the ruse going, i.e. projecting the fake space station.

I'm lost.

Why does the stick's shadow length and angle differ on where the stick is and what time of day and year it is?

Sorry but the dome size cannot be measured.

Nothing of the Dome Theory is falsifiable so no nothing can be measured.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

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Would reflection not be like Figure 2 on this link?

Ahhh right. If the dome was rough and dese areas of roughness then you would get changes.
This is simply hydrogen/helium frozen icicle build on a small scale which would have little effect of any changes of a moving energy over each part.
Think of it like a diffuser light reflector.

 

[Harry Angstrom]

It's basically the Truman Show. Whomever constructed the dome programmed the mainframe to tell the projector when to shine certain lights and stuff. It was also programmed to adapt to apply new lights and structures to the mirror when the narrative needed to be hyped up to keep the ruse going, i.e. projecting the fake space station.


Nothing of the Dome Theory is falsifiable so no nothing can be measured.

I think I'm out.

it was amusing for a little while but the bloke is crackers. The shadow on the stick was my test of his system and it has failed miserably.

As I said earlier he fails to comprehend the most simple science and comes up with some fantastical world. fair play to him but I cannot even understand how he got to think the way he does.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

That is a nice vague description of the world you think you live in, but what I asked was how does it work?

To be more specific, you are a navigator on an ancient sailing vessel going from Southampton to New York. To hit the port on time without having to cruise up and down the coast looking for it, you navigate using the stars at night and come in bang on target. What do you measure, what do you use to make that measurement and how does that tell you where you are?

Then the big question is why? We are told that these navigation techniques work, we have historical evidence that they work, but what is actually going on here?

What is going on is, they work but instead of making out it's due to a globe it's due to following the actual moving lights over the dome.

We are told how a petrol engine works and for those inclined they can take it apart and see. We clearly can't take the world apart but how do we think for ourselves, work out what is actually going on and investigate the mechanics of how the ancient navigators did this?

As above.

You see, we can test out flatness or curvature in many simple ways.
We can observe, test and repeat this for flatness on water.

A dome overhead from this and points of moving lights can be followed to destinations. We observe the moving lights but are told its us that's moving, not them.
We do not sense nor observe anything for a globe when 5 minutes of anyone's time is took to look at it unbiasedly.

Could be ?!? The possibility of something doesnt really do much against being able to see globe planets and satellites even with your own eyes at times nevermind telescopes and the likes !

But you don't see these things. You are told they're globes and planets and that's it. From that point your observations become built on that storyline.

you talk of possibilities there but has there ever been any images recorded of a flat planet anywhere in any system in the universe ?!??I've never mentioned anything to do with a flat planet.

My Earth I go with is a cell. That is not flat.

what do you mean ‘ merely lights ‘ and ‘ you do not see planets ‘

Like I said.

are you just needing someone to launch a git big tree up and smash the screen dome upon which these ‘ lights ‘ are shown on a like in Godzilla vs King Kong ?!?

Reflections off a dome.