Flat Earthers

[Nukehasslefan]

You have made some amazingly bizarre comments but the one i have quoted above is about the dumbest. Who is a real scientist? Galileo, copernicus, newton, einstein?

A real scientist is one who actually looks for the truth and doesn't pass off theories as factual.

I hold postgraduate engineering qualifications so don't need convincing and am not the problem here.

You however have a clear and present inability to follow advice, also possibly having had some kind of mental episode.

Dribble on bro

Post graduate engineering qualifications qualify you on what shape the Earth is and what space is, etc, does it?

All you have learned is just made up made. The fact you can apply it to real world engineering probablems is just coincidence

Nobody's arguing against provable real world engineering.

Perhaps I did a crap job of describing the scenario I was talking about.

Imagine we all live on a dartboard:

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If we have a number of people living on the treble line and they look at something above the bullseye, where north is the bullseye, they all see the same thing. Someone living on treble 20 looks at the same thing as someone living on the treble 6 only it a different way round. This matches what we observe so all good.

Now imagine those people turn around so their backs are away from the bull, opposite of north is south, so they all walk in opposite directions from each other, getting further apart until they hit the double line. Someone standing on the double 20 looks up into the night sky and can see something. The person living on the double 6 looks up and sees something different, it can't be the same thing as the person on the 20 as they have their back to it. They are looking at a different side of the dome. Now picture someone on the double 1 looking straight ahead/due 'south' they don't see the southern cross that 20 saw straight ahead because that is 18 degrees to the left. They can not both see it straight ahead. If there was some strange light thing going on, what about someone half way between the two on 9 degrees?

This does not match observational evidence. This leaves three possibilities.
1) Everyone who has ever observed the southern night sky is telling a lie to cover up the flat earth scenario
2) The earth is not a flat dartboard like structure
3) There is something really odd going on where no matter which direction you look at south, the dome shows you the same picture only rotated.

Which one is it? If it is 3, can you explain how that can possibly work? You like to use the planetarium example. Does that effect ever happen in planetarium?

Until someone can provide some evidence of how this might work and not some handwavey thing saying "oh you can't see it because it is what you have been lead to believe" then I don't think the idea has any credibility at all.

You are assuming people are stood at the double top, double 6, double 3 and double 11, etc, facing the outer rim.

You must also be assuming a flat earth circle.
You re asking me to go on that. How can I when I don't subscribe to that?

 

[payne]

A real scientist is one who actually looks for the truth and doesn't pass off theories as factual.

Post graduate engineering qualifications qualify you on what shape the Earth is and what space is, etc, does it?

Nobody's arguing against provable real world engineering.

You are assuming people are stood at the double top, double 6, double 3 and double 11, etc, facing the outer rim.

You must also be assuming a flat earth circle.
You re asking me to go on that. How can I when I don't subscribe to that?

What shape is the flat earth, rectangle?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

What shape is the flat earth, rectangle?

I don't know, I don't subscribe to a flat earth.
I subscribe to level water on an earth that has varying degrees of concavity for which the water sits in, with an ice dome covering it.

Basically a cell.
The issue is, I go against the globe so I'm a flat earther according to many people.

 

[payne]

I don't know, I don't subscribe to a flat earth.
I subscribe to level water on an earth that has varying degrees of concavity for which the water sits in, with an ice dome covering it.

Basically a cell.
The issue is, I go against the globe so I'm a flat earther according to many people.

A cell sounds suspiciously like a narrative made by people to reinforce this bullshit that there's some new world order and that its all about 'control'. Whatever the fuck that means

A cell sounds suspiciously like a narrative made by people to reinforce this bullshit that there's some new world order and that its all about 'control'. Whatever the fuck that means.

Why has the ice dome never been observed?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

A cell sounds suspiciously like a narrative made by people to reinforce this bullshit that there's some new world order and that its all about 'control'. Whatever the fuck that means

Put any spin you want on it.
I'm telling you how the situation is from my side.

 

[payne]

Put any spin you want on it.
I'm telling you how the situation is from my side.

So this dome? What shape is it if you dont subscribe to a round flat earth theory?

Why is there absolutely no testable evidence of such a thing?

There must be atleast something that's agreed upon by numerous people to lead you to come to such a conclusion.

Where is the concensus on such a thing?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Why has the ice dome never been observed?

Maybe it has....but seeing an ice dome would not be within our vision unless we had the best of the best mountain top scopes. In my opinion.

Of course, it would be argues because people believe they see million mile glowing suns and trillion upon trillion mile stars they think are suns, so my argument from my side becomes nuts. And fair enough. I'm merely explaining the side I'm on.

So this dome? What shape is it if you dont subscribe to a round flat earth theory?

Why is there absolutely no testable evidence of such a thing?

There must be atleast something that's agreed upon by numerous people to lead you to come to such a conclusion.

Where is the concensus on such a thing?

If a globe is pushed why would anyone push for anything else?
The mass consensus is for a spinning globe and all the rest of it. None of it provable but accepted as factual, nonetheless.

 

[taipeisafc]

Put any spin you want on it.
I'm telling you how the situation is from my side.

Sadly your side is delusion fantasy with zero evidence to support it and requires breaking of all fundamental laws of motion and belief in an immense global conspiracy pervading all governments and millions of people for no perceivable benefit. You sir are a clown

 

[payne]

Maybe it has....but seeing an ice dome would not be within our vision unless we had the best of the best mountain top scopes. In my opinion.

Of course, it would be argues because people believe they see million mile glowing suns and trillion upon trillion mile stars they think are suns, so my argument from my side becomes nuts. And fair enough. I'm merely explaining the side I'm on.

If a globe is pushed why would anyone push for anything else?
The mass consensus is for a spinning globe and all the rest of it. None of it provable but accepted as factual, nonetheless.

We have class Mountain top scopes. They haven't seen any ice in the way?

Also how on earth do the satellites get out?

Does a hatch open an air lock?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Sadly your side is delusion fantasy with zero evidence to support it and requires breaking of all fundamental laws of motion and belief in an immense global conspiracy pervading all governments and millions of people for no perceivable benefit. You sir are a clown

There's only one law as far as I can deduce and it's very simple. You only get out of something what you put in.
Basically, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

 

[payne]

Maybe it has....but seeing an ice dome would not be within our vision unless we had the best of the best mountain top scopes. In my opinion.

Of course, it would be argues because people believe they see million mile glowing suns and trillion upon trillion mile stars they think are suns, so my argument from my side becomes nuts. And fair enough. I'm merely explaining the side I'm on.

If a globe is pushed why would anyone push for anything else?
The mass consensus is for a spinning globe and all the rest of it. None of it provable but accepted as factual, nonetheless.

What's the point though?

If its the shape of a sausage who would care if that's how it is. Why them try to convince people it's the shape of a pear?

 

[taipeisafc]

There's only one law as far as I can deduce and it's very simple. You only get out of something what you put in.
Basically, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

You cannot deduce anything you are an idiot

 

[Nukehasslefan]

We have class Mountain top scopes. They haven't seen any ice in the way?

Also how on earth do the satellites get out?

Does a hatch open an air lock?

There are no space satellites, in my opinion so they don't need to get out.

 

[Prefab]

If there was a dome there'd be no atmospheric pressure gradient which there demonstrably is, just count the poor buggers who've died making the ascent of Everest.

 

[Scotsmackem]

All you have learned is just made up made. The fact you can apply it to real world engineering probablems is just coincidence

Amazing

 

[Nukehasslefan]

What's the point though?

If its the shape of a sausage who would care if that's how it is. Why them try to convince people it's the shape of a pear?

Pear shaped or the circular shape we're shown?
Which is it?
Maybe none.

 

[payne]

There are no space satellites, in my opinion so they don't need to get out.

Where the hell are all those rockets going ?

If there was a dome there'd be no atmospheric pressure gradient which there demonstrably is, just count the poor buggers who've died making the ascent of Everest.

Alien tech. We don't understand it.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

What's the point though?

If its the shape of a sausage who would care if that's how it is. Why them try to convince people it's the shape of a pear?

Pear shaped or the circular shape we're shown?
Which is it?
Maybe none.

If there was a dome there'd be no atmospheric pressure gradient which there demonstrably is, just count the poor buggers who've died making the ascent of Everest.

Of course there would be atmospheric pressure gradients.
It's a dome (in my opinion) and a dome will hold varying pressure from ground to dome.

Where the hell are all those rockets going ?

In the drink or basically disintegrating.

 

[payne]

There are no space satellites, in my opinion so they don't need to get out.

Where the hell are all those rockets going ?

Pear shaped or the circular shape we're shown?
Which is it?
Maybe none.

Of course there would be atmospheric pressure gradients.
It's a dome (in my opinion) and a dome will hold varying pressure from ground to dome.

In the drink or basically disintegrating.

God rest the souls of the people on board

 

[Nukehasslefan]

God rest the souls of the people on board

Sorry but I have to ignore you. I don't want this to turn into a hate match.