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NUFC thread 2021.
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Binxy
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Is that a Vic Reeves sketch??
Sidewinder2
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Is that a Vic Reeves sketch??
I’d never seen that before, looks like a hairy biker with a wok up his shirt
Iansun45
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So he's done poorly in his last two jobs then
BigPete
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@MackemX all the credit for that GIF
Hes a caaat man!
Bee ba ba bada bop
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Bears Beets
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BigPete
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Exile 1968
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@MackemX all the credit for that GIF
Hes a caaat man!
Bee ba ba bada bop
that's fantastic
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BigPete
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You really are a clueless knacker like. You were in Europe at the cost of nearly bankrupting your club, you spent well beyond your means and Ashley saved you, despite those few years in the sun you are now at your actual level. You had massive over achievement for a few years, again due to financial mismanagement. That was against the norm as before that you were utter shite
Ive never read so much bullshitI've not changed any of my arguments from the moment I got here.
I didn't pretend to be anything. I outlined where I agreed with you lot on Rafa, and some minor disagreements. I tried to have a genuine, serious, debate, if only to test my own beliefs. What I've been met with is abusive posts from people that don't agree almost from minute one.
This place gets a bad wrap on the rest of the internet, and this thread doesn't do many favours for that perception. It never needs to get personal, but for some reason it does. You set out your own conclusion that my 'mask would slip' and then claimed I was clearly another member, and waited for me to say anything that went against your 'gravy stained bastard in black and white' perception. I'm sure you must live and work with Mags, so why is this different? You get annoyed when I articulate detailed arguments, it's all just very very angry.
I have friends who argue that Sunderland fans deserve to be in League One because they didn't fight for their club or protest. If I'd wanted to be a WUM I'd have trotted those talking points out. It's just not that serious to me man, it's the internet, and it's football.
As soon as someone proves you wrong you come out with smiley reactions or one word responses like "rattled". Also this place gets a bad rap on the internet? More absolute bullshit, this place probably has more fans from other clubs than any other, including you deluded simpletons
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You mean the 13 years when you spent huge amounts, thanks to the money injection from Sky as football finances shot up and a few clubs gambled on playing with the big boys? Is that the 13 years you won nowt and come the end were heading more into debt because of the lack of 'success'? What about the 13 years prior or the many seasons of nothingness prior to that?
In the image below, it shows the actual league position that season, the overall average position and the last 15 seasons position. The highlighted bit is the 'success' period. You finished 42nd in 1991-92 which was your lowest ever position and also the lowest 15 year average. The 15 year average position in 1992 was 24th as in the 15 years prior, you'd only finished as high as 8th in Div 1.
You last finished top 4 way back in 1950-51 though no European competitions were around then. You did qualify for Europe in 1976-77 when you finished 5th, though it used to be top 4 prior seasons though. Look at the league positions from 1940's even as you're not really a yoyo club but rather a rollercoaster ride of huge ups and downs.
It just shows you were nowt before the huge cash injection that nearly cost you before Ashley came in. Yet many of the mag fans (probably '92ers) go on as if NUFC is a 'big' club that should be up there and they don't deserve this. This is part of the reason why they're thought of as being deluded and not just by the Mackems.
You've simply reverted to type and today's history lesson for the deluded has now concluded!
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@MackemX all the credit for that GIF
Hes a caaat man!
Bee ba ba bada bop
Im in tears here
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Why can't I be that concise?You really are a clueless knacker like. You were in Europe at the cost of nearly bankrupting your club, you spent well beyond your means and Ashley saved you, despite those few years in the sun you are now at your actual level. You had massive over achievement for a few years, again due to financial mismanagement. That was against the norm as before that you were utter shite
Apologies to those on a phone as my last post is huge but I'm a fast typist!
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No, I didn't. My smilies were in response to abusive responses received.You really are a clueless knacker like. You were in Europe at the cost of nearly bankrupting your club, you spent well beyond your means and Ashley saved you, despite those few years in the sun you are now at your actual level. You had massive over achievement for a few years, again due to financial mismanagement. That was against the norm as before that you were utter shite
Ive never read so much bullshit
I've no qualms if you prove me wrong, none at all. I was happy to concede we had different interpretations of 'on the brink' and I explained why.
By the same token, I'm also not going to sit and take dogs abuse from you and a few others because you disagree with me. You can't give it out and not expect something back.
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beezer
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Is that saying the mags‘ average league position based on their entire history is about 14th in the top division?You mean the 13 years when you spent huge amounts, thanks to the money injection from Sky as football finances shot up and a few clubs gambled on playing with the big boys? Is that the 13 years you won nowt and come the end were heading more into debt because of the lack of 'success'? What about the 13 years prior or the many seasons of nothingness prior to that?
In the image below, it shows the actual league position that season, the overall average position and the last 15 seasons position. The highlighted bit is the 'success' period. You finished 42nd in 1991-92 which was your lowest ever position and also the lowest 15 year average. The 15 year average position in 1992 was 24th as in the 15 years prior, you'd only finished as high as 8th in Div 1.
You last finished top 4 way back in 1950-51 though no European competitions were around then. You did qualify for Europe in 1976-77 when you finished 5th, though it used to be top 4 prior seasons though. Look at the league positions from 1940's even as you're not really a yoyo club but rather a rollercoaster ride of huge ups and downs.
It just shows you were nowt before the huge cash injection that nearly cost you before Ashley came in. Yet many of the mag fans (probably '92ers) go on as if NUFC is a 'big' club that should be up there and they don't deserve this. This is part of the reason why they're thought of as being deluded and not just by the Mackems.
You've simply reverted to type and today's history lesson for the deluded has now concluded!
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Out of interest don’t suppose you know ours?
Secret Visage
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You are the outsider here. If you didnt expect abuse then you are as deluded about that as you are about your "massive" club
Secret Visage
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Ha ha your post was very informativeWhy can't I be that concise?
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You mean the 13 years when you spent huge amounts, thanks to the money injection from Sky as football finances shot up and a few clubs gambled on playing with the big boys? Is that the 13 years you won nowt and come the end were heading more into debt because of the lack of 'success'? What about the 13 years prior or the many seasons of nothingness prior to that?
In the image below, it shows the actual league position that season, the overall average position and the last 15 seasons position. The highlighted bit is the 'success' period. You finished 42nd in 1991-92 which was your lowest ever position and also the lowest 15 year average. The 15 year average position in 1992 was 24th as in the 15 years prior, you'd only finished as high as 8th in Div 1.
You last finished top 4 way back in 1950-51 though no European competitions were around then. You did qualify for Europe in 1976-77 when you finished 5th, though it used to be top 4 prior seasons though. Look at the league positions from 1940's even as you're not really a yoyo club but rather a rollercoaster ride of huge ups and downs.
It just shows you were nowt before the huge cash injection that nearly cost you before Ashley came in. Yet many of the mag fans (probably '92ers) go on as if NUFC is a 'big' club that should be up there and they don't deserve this. This is part of the reason why they're thought of as being deluded and not just by the Mackems.
You've simply reverted to type and today's history lesson for the deluded has now concluded!
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that’s a good chart - shows that since their last title in 1927, nearly a century ago, they haven’t been anything special.
It’s harder now than ever imo. Due to the inequalities of football finances, there’s a small group of clubs sharing the trophies amongst themselves with no one else getting much of a look in. This trend has actually been going on for decades but has really accelerated in recent years.
Throughout most of ourselves and the mags history, the north east produced more players than anywhere else. That was one of the main justifications for the portrayal of both clubs as “sleeping giants”.
If either of us could get the right people in place, we could take advantage of the gold mine we were sat on, and then mobilise the massive support base to become one of the strongest teams in the land. You didn’t need anything like the same financial backing and commercial deals you do now. It’s been said a thousand times on here, but if we’d ever got Brian Clough in the hot seat and let him do what he wanted, success would surely have followed.
Neither of us managed to do it, and now we don’t produce players in those numbers anymore, and probably never will again.
Even in those favourable circumstances, the mags weren’t ever able to become a force. So why do they now think that simply removing Ashley will result in glory? It wasn’t like that before, and it’s far harder now.
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