Hes like any other mag man, absolutely clueless with the points he makes and when those points get proven wrong he will change his mind and claim thats not what he was saying after all
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Hes like any other mag man, absolutely clueless with the points he makes and when those points get proven wrong he will change his mind and claim thats not what he was saying after all
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Dilligaf60
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OMFGI’ve actually seen a couple tweet and say the Premier League should step in and force the club to sack him because of the damage he’s doing.
I mean WTF
ordinarily I wouldn’t believe the was a serious tweet, but since it’s come from them I absolutely I’ve it. Have you ever seen such a shower of shameless clueless knackers?Aye, keep taking it up the arseFewmin!
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or the gap between your teeth mate. I could park me bike in there.
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Catnip will do thatHes off his tits
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Game, set and match, the cat nonce has been well and truly silenced, he won’t accept that as the norm and will spout further shite.
Ale taster
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Whereas in Sheffield and the West Midlands, the supporters will just take it in their stride
wilberforce
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Was Downie weeping and whaling when we spiralled down the leagues ?
Serious question btw. I don’t know the answer
Serious question btw. I don’t know the answer
cluffy
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More suggestion that the Mags (almost literally) dodged a bullet!"
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The Fish
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A) I didn't ask if £30m a year was too much to ask, so I've no idea why you've put it in quotes like I did. I said spend money recouped by sales, and MAYBE a base of £30m is a safer gamble than rolling the dice on Bruce. That doesn't mean £30m every season, it doesn't even mean £30m as a minimum. What it means is maybe a base of £30m. e.g. we finish midtable, we haven't sold anyone for a profit, there's a player available and interest around the £30m mark, Ashley covers that (as he was reportedly willing to do for Joelinton). You have, as is your want, taken what I've written, repurposed it and stretched it to an extreme.
B) Few were complaining when we finished 10th and 13th under the previous manager because there was very clear progression in the quality on the pitch. (so much for high expectations) Fans were less impressed when that progress was chipped away at last season, and there's dismay as it's been wiped out this season. All Ashley had to do to maintain midtable stability was to cede control of the transfers to a good football manager. Make him spend within the budget, fine, but let him decide to spend £16m on Rondon, instead of spunking £40m up the wall on Joelinton, let him maintain the solid defence instead of gambling that a hasbeen/neverwas can do enough to keep NUFC up. Yes Benitez will make mistakes in the market, but he'll also keep you up. And if he's working with the money he makes from selling players, he's got nobody to blame but himself if they flop.
An unbiased journalist gets it;
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Hes like any other mag man, absolutely clueless with the points he makes and when those points get proven wrong he will change his mind and claim thats not what he was saying after all
The way some of you lot will twist yourselves in knots to score a point against your 'rivals' is fascinating.
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Bloody hell, where to start with this.
Sunderland fans will obviously be unhappy at being in League One and shouldn’t accept it. Sunderland’s natural position is probably around 14th, which will mean sometimes finishing higher like when we finished 7th, sometimes lower which could involve relegation. A club that can pull in 48,000 for a League One game should never be in that league, even you must realise that.
You talk about the leagues being fluid, are you aware that this means clubs will move around, even to the point of changing divisions temporarily, which is what could be happening to you. Like you challenging the top 6, this will just be a blip and you’ll eventually bounce back to your natural mid table position.
Then you talk about being one of the teams aiming to be the surprise club at the top, you may not be aware of this, but that’s what most clubs try to do but very few succeed. You were lucky in that you tried it and actually broke into the top 2 and still have the debt that went with that attempt. Rather than enjoy it for what it was, it’s become an albatross around your necks as your deluded lot expect that to be the norm and won’t settle for anything less. Poor Bobby Robson was sacked for only finishing about 5th, most fans saying he needed to go and should be moved upstairs.
So to answer your question, yes Newcastle can easily be a mid table Premier club, but you must accept that this means you sometimes may finish higher than that. Likewise, you may finish lower and find yourselves in a relegation battle but should expect to bounce back if you go down.
Exile 1968
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Benitez didn't keep you up mate.A) I didn't ask if £30m a year was too much to ask, so I've no idea why you've put it in quotes like I did. I said spend money recouped by sales, and MAYBE a base of £30m is a safer gamble than rolling the dice on Bruce. That doesn't mean £30m every season, it doesn't even mean £30m as a minimum. What it means is maybe a base of £30m. e.g. we finish midtable, we haven't sold anyone for a profit, there's a player available and interest around the £30m mark, Ashley covers that (as he was reportedly willing to do for Joelinton). You have, as is your want, taken what I've written, repurposed it and stretched it to an extreme.
B) Few were complaining when we finished 10th and 13th under the previous manager because there was very clear progression in the quality on the pitch. (so much for high expectations) Fans were less impressed when that progress was chipped away at last season, and there's dismay as it's been wiped out this season. All Ashley had to do to maintain midtable stability was to cede control of the transfers to a good football manager. Make him spend within the budget, fine, but let him decide to spend £16m on Rondon, instead of spunking £40m up the wall on Joelinton, let him maintain the solid defence instead of gambling that a hasbeen/neverwas can do enough to keep NUFC up. Yes Benitez will make mistakes in the market, but he'll also keep you up. And if he's working with the money he makes from selling players, he's got nobody to blame but himself if they flop.
An unbiased journalist gets it;
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The way some of you lot will twist yourselves in knots to score a point against your 'rivals' is fascinating.
Not when he relegated you.
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Bears Beets
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You could send someone into a coma, you boring wankerA) I didn't ask if £30m a year was too much to ask, so I've no idea why you've put it in quotes like I did. I said spend money recouped by sales, and MAYBE a base of £30m is a safer gamble than rolling the dice on Bruce. That doesn't mean £30m every season, it doesn't even mean £30m as a minimum. What it means is maybe a base of £30m. e.g. we finish midtable, we haven't sold anyone for a profit, there's a player available and interest around the £30m mark, Ashley covers that (as he was reportedly willing to do for Joelinton). You have, as is your want, taken what I've written, repurposed it and stretched it to an extreme.
B) Few were complaining when we finished 10th and 13th under the previous manager because there was very clear progression in the quality on the pitch. (so much for high expectations) Fans were less impressed when that progress was chipped away at last season, and there's dismay as it's been wiped out this season. All Ashley had to do to maintain midtable stability was to cede control of the transfers to a good football manager. Make him spend within the budget, fine, but let him decide to spend £16m on Rondon, instead of spunking £40m up the wall on Joelinton, let him maintain the solid defence instead of gambling that a hasbeen/neverwas can do enough to keep NUFC up. Yes Benitez will make mistakes in the market, but he'll also keep you up. And if he's working with the money he makes from selling players, he's got nobody to blame but himself if they flop.
An unbiased journalist gets it;
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The way some of you lot will twist yourselves in knots to score a point against your 'rivals' is fascinating.
putting the mog, into mogadon.
Monkey Boots
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He could bore an arsehole into a wooden horse.
Blue_Monday
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Nobody was complaining or hounding the manager in the seasons above, in fact everyone was praising the manager and saying what a good job he had done, the only complaints were that if the manager had been given a bit of money and allowed to improve the team the we would have been even higher. The manager left because he wasnt allowed to improve the team and now look what the idiot who replaced him has done to team he inherited.
frenchduke
Winger
absolutely pathetic this reactionary nonsense. every club wants to challenge the top half, no club wants to suffer relegation. It’s funny when it happens to other clubs, but when it’s them it’s a Shakespearean tragedy.
The Fish
Winger
I don't disagree, I think a club of your size, history and whatnot is better than League 1, it's just been poorly run. Bad decisions, repeated mistakes and a little misfortune.
I also think Newcastle is poorly run. Bad decisions (McClaren, Carver, Bruce), repeated mistakes (waiting too long to sack a manager, gambling on resale value rather than value to the team, etc.) and a little misfortune (injuries).
The difference is that your owners managerial gambles were catastrophic, your repeated mistakes (selling top goal scorer) and misfortune were more punishing.
Well, until we do return to our natural midtable position, surely it's reasonable to want it? Not top 6, not Champions League, but the safety of 11th? That's the frustration, not that we're 17th, but that 17th is enough for the owner and the manager.
I don't know of a single Newcastle fan that expects top 2, top 4 or top 6. The expectation I see before every PL season is bottom half. Didn't Sky run a poll and Newcastle fans were the most pessimistic?
So, if we can be a midtable club why is it deluded to be unhappy with a club who's owner and manager state survival is the target? Why is it deluded to expect an organised team? Why is it demanding to be unhappy with scoring terribly on performance metrics AND being awful on the eye? Why is it deluded to be unhappy with the announcement of serial failure Steve Bruce? Genuinely, fans would have accepted someone like Potter who, for all his faults, has Brighton playing to a cogent, obvious plan. Him, Wilder, Hassenhutl, Rodgers, At times during Ashley tenure we could have been attractive to any of them.
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I think you will find the manager left because of a mammoth offer he had on the table from China. I don't live far from him and I had heard from multiple sources that he was off, long before the season was over. But the point was @the_fish (who I have on ignore now as he was so tedious) claim that all you want is a team in mid-table....but he has the memory of a goldfish and had forgotten about the three prior mid-table finishes.
Binxy
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He was given over £100m to spend.
Ale taster
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No such thing as a 'natural position'.
Run it badly and you end up with double relegations - Wolves, Southampton, Leeds, SAFC.
Run it well and you compete with the elite and could win the league - Leicester.
Natural position is an absolute nonsense.
Run it badly and you end up with double relegations - Wolves, Southampton, Leeds, SAFC.
Run it well and you compete with the elite and could win the league - Leicester.
Natural position is an absolute nonsense.
Binxy
Striker
The safety of 11th you say.
Alan Pardew averaged around 11th.
You must have forgotten,
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Conckney mafia out
Etc,etc....
When Bruce took over, most mags thought they would be relegated in his 1st season and cited the ‘terrible squad’ as one of the reasons. This is the same terrible squad that Rafa left behind. Yet Bruce somehow managed to match Rafa’s ‘success’, despite not having Rondon and Perez.
Likewise, most mags I know seemed pleased with last summer’s transfer business, bringing in Wilson, Hendricks and Fraser was generally considered a good bit of business at the time and supposedly improved the squad.
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