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Mr Redknapp said:
Mark NIcholas said Stokes played a fine innings, he got 50 runs that doesn't win you test matches :lol:
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Knowing that Stokes has dehli belly gives him a little leeway for losing concentraton, just annoyed that we should have got 350 minimum (though im expecting India to go a little past this mark).
A word for Jimmy, superb Winter, really didnt expect him to outbowl Broad the way he has done given the last 18 months Broad has had - will Broad play another test in Asian conditions?
 
Salem Street South said:
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Yes Jennings not being there is the difference between the sides and the reason we can’t f***ing bat
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I thought you said scoring 100s in Asia was no big deal?

And that anyone could do it?

It’s almost like you should pick players who can play spin bowling

Then not play them in England

By your philosophy India will rock up England and play 3 spinners
 
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Just finished with the highlights and I can only express my disappointment with the happenings so far. Too many batsmen out to poor shots and, to begin with, an inexplicable team selection. Bess had to return, but we can't regard Stokes as the second seamer. I would have picked Woakes (who actually plays spin pretty well).
I expect India to get at least 350 on this wicket.
 
Boo said:
Just finished with the highlights and I can only express my disappointment with the happenings so far. Too many batsmen out to poor shots and, to begin with, an inexplicable team selection. Bess had to return, but we can't regard Stokes as the second seamer. I would have picked Woakes (who actually plays spin pretty well).
I expect India to get at least 350 on this wicket.
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England seem mentally fried to me, they were not at it today.
 
Salem Street South said:
Link where I said that please.

(you won’t find it cos I didn’t, you donut)

I said we may as well call up Haseeb Hameed as bring back Jennings for all the good it’ll do.
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why? Haseeb didnt score any 100s

pick players for the conditions

When I aske dyou about that you started going o about Jennings record in England like it had any sort of relevance

this tour more than anything showed we needed good players of spin, we had no chance with 4 or 5 lads in their early 20s who had never toured here
 
scotch said:
Worst day of the tour from England for me, pitch blameless, too many batsman getting out to straight balls (Sibley, Stokes, Bess, Leach) or getting themselves out (Crawley, Lawrence).
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Just in general, this comment about straight balls is annoying me like
Its an easy line but it means fuck all

they aren't just bowling straight balls every time

some are turning big then the arm ball on to the stumps gets you, its good bowling

Why is getting our to a straight ball worse than a ball that turns, when there is no particular way to judge what delivery it is going to be

I dont get the logic at all, they are often the wicket taking balls, they were for Shane Warne, the slider and flipper. You could just describe them as "straight balls"

Hiw many times did Swann get people out to the straight ball, it was his biggest trick


"Just a straight ball" is just a poor statement IMO
 
wayne entwhistle no9 said:
They have been gone since 2nd test at Chennai.
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to be fair they've bowled India out every chance they have had, they still been fighting. the last 2 tests were absolutely ridiculous

I wouldnt have taken much from it even if we won, just pointless games as far as I was concerned.
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urgh these Indians man, after the way they've gone on :lol:

I really dont like them
 
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The Rat said:
why? Haseeb didnt score any 100s

pick players for the conditions

When I aske dyou about that you started going o about Jennings record in England like it had any sort of relevance

this tour more than anything showed we needed good players of spin, we had no chance with 4 or 5 lads in their early 20s who had never toured here
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Hameed made 82 with a broken hand. He averages 43 in India. Jennings averages 41.

I said his Test record isn’t good enough and he’s had all the chances he’s likely to get, barring him scoring a load of runs in the CC in the next year or two.

He averages 25 in Tests. It’s not enough and IMO he is in a category with Ballance, Lyth, Stoneman etc etc as good county batsmen but not up to it at the highest level.

You took exception with that and went off on one which you are liable to do.

If you think Jennings would have made all the difference on this tour I’m not sure what more I can say to you tbh other than agree to disagree
 
Salem Street South said:
Hameed made 82 with a broken hand. He averages 43 in India. Jennings averages 41.

I said his Test record isn’t good enough and he’s had all the chances he’s likely to get, barring him scoring a load of runs in the CC in the next year or two.

He averages 25 in Tests. It’s not enough and IMO he is in a category with Ballance, Lyth, Stoneman etc etc as good county batsmen but not up to it at the highest level.

You took exception with that and went off on one which you are liable to do.

If you think Jennings would have made all the difference on this tour I’m not sure what more I can say to you tbh other than agree to disagree
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:lol: mate you've done it again

read back what you just posted

what has any of that got to do with anything

what has scoring runs in the CC in the next year or 2 got to do with playing on turning wickets in Asia?

I've literally no idea what you are talking about

Lyth and Stoneman? :lol: wtf? what have they got to do with it?

You've just proved my point 100% thanks for that, literally baffled you've just posted that.
 
The Rat said:
:lol: mate you've done it again

read back what you just posted

what has any of that got to do with anything

what has scoring runs in the CC in the next year or 2 got to do with playing on turning wickets in Asia?

I've literally no idea what you are talking about

Lyth and Stoneman? :lol: wtf? what have they got to do with it?

You've just proved my point 100% thanks for that, literally baffled you've just posted that.
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It’s really not that difficult to follow what I’m saying but it seems it’s beyond you. I’m out.
 
The Rat said:
why? Haseeb didnt score any 100s

pick players for the conditions

When I aske dyou about that you started going o about Jennings record in England like it had any sort of relevance

this tour more than anything showed we needed good players of spin, we had no chance with 4 or 5 lads in their early 20s who had never toured here
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I just don't think Jennings is a test match quality batsman. He had a very short purple patch in his career where he was picked by England and got his first of two hundreds when in that purple patch on a completely flat pitch on day one when dropped on nought. Its true he has had one other good hundred and plenty of failures in Asia on pitches nowhere near as challenging as tests 2 and 3 here. If you were going to play Jennings in India then you would have needed to play him in SL as well otherwise he would have had no meaningful cricket in months going to India - he would have had no chance. If you picked hi in Sri Lanka we would still have won a series but it would have been at the expense of players we are trying to develop.
 
Salem Street South said:
Hameed made 82 with a broken hand. He averages 43 in India. Jennings averages 41.

I said his Test record isn’t good enough and he’s had all the chances he’s likely to get, barring him scoring a load of runs in the CC in the next year or two.

He averages 25 in Tests. It’s not enough and IMO he is in a category with Ballance, Lyth, Stoneman etc etc as good county batsmen but not up to it at the highest level.

You took exception with that and went off on one which you are liable to do.

If you think Jennings would have made all the difference on this tour I’m not sure what more I can say to you tbh other than agree to disagree
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Why we mentioning somebody’s record years and years ago when he is shit now.

Hameed is clearly rubbish now.
Both Jennings and Hameed should be no why near discussion for selection they both a million miles away from test cricketers whatever their record was 4 years ago or whatever it was.

That’s a massive amount time to lose form which they both clearly have.
 
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Voice of fair play said:
Why we mentioning somebody’s record years and years ago when he is shit now.

Hameed is clearly rubbish now.
Both Jennings and Hameed should be no why near discussion for selection they both a million miles away from test cricketers whatever their record was 4 years ago or whatever it was.

That’s a massive amount time to lose form which they both clearly have.
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I know that all that man.
 
Voice of fair play said:
Why we mentioning somebody’s record years and years ago when he is shit now.

Hameed is clearly rubbish now.
Both Jennings and Hameed should be no why near discussion for selection they both a million miles away from test cricketers whatever their record was 4 years ago or whatever it was.

That’s a massive amount time to lose form which they both clearly have.
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Agree with that but salem was only using Hameed in a counter discussion rather than advocating him for selection.
 
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