People are tired of working from home

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Gelan said:
I fear they all might think and feel the same, so all good if you can avoid going back.
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Tbf that last sentence is probably a bit harsh, most of them are decent people but a few are complete arse holes. I just don't really enjoy working there any more.

We've all been told by senior management to wfh perm for the last year yet middle management are over ruling this and forcing staff to attend an unsafe environment. It's f***ing bonkers.
 


Not a huge fan of it but it's 10x worse at the moment because the kids are home. I've also got a load of other distractions with work going on at my house too. Once that's done and the kids are back it won't be as bad. I'll always want to be able to get in to the office.

Mind my next contract looks like it will be with a Herefordshire based company so home working definitely preferred.
 
Charmless Man said:
Most people aren’t tenant farmers these days though. 260 years is about ‘ten generations’ so it’s a fair whack of time.
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You are forgetting all of the hand loom weavers who worked from home and all the other cottage industries - blacksmiths joiners cobblers coopers and the like. Things were made in workshops that were attached the tradesman's homes. The factory system was only necessary to facilitate the Industrial Revolution - we live in a pre-industrial society that primarily provides services now.

Believe me 260 years is no time at all in terms of the 100,000 years that human society has been in existence. Even feudalism lasted 400 years China 4000 and Egypt 3000
 
Lord Potts said:
You are forgetting all of the hand loom weavers who worked from home and all the other cottage industries - blacksmiths joiners cobblers coopers and the like. Things were made in workshops that were attached the tradesman's homes. The factory system was only necessary to facilitate the Industrial Revolution - we live in a pre-industrial society that primarily provides services now.

Believe me 260 years is no time at all in terms of the 100,000 years that human society has been in existence. Even feudalism lasted 400 years China 4000 and Egypt 3000
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Point stands that not many people did work that couldn’t be done from home or the land that immediately surrounded the home.

As you rightly say, things are different now.

260 years is no time at all, but it’s sufficient for changes to be set in that will take more than an even briefer pandemic to break.
 
Always have worked from home.

Although it is slightly vindicating watching those who thought a home based job was "easy" and "not a real job" getting the shit kicked out of them.:lol:
 
Pseudonym Number 1 said:
Tbf that last sentence is probably a bit harsh, most of them are decent people but a few are complete arse holes. I just don't really enjoy working there any more.

We've all been told by senior management to wfh perm for the last year yet middle management are over ruling this and forcing staff to attend an unsafe environment. It's f***ing bonkers.
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I didn't mean to come across like that...a bit tongue in cheek, so thanks for taking a balanced view. You're a fair guy, so yes, I believe you work with a few arseholes 👍
 
Most of the work I do is for business units elsewhere in the country or for the broader group in Asia/around the world.
Spending ten hours a week getting to / from the office to spend 90% of the time on Teams/Zoom/email/mobile seems even more pointless now that it did before. (Having said that, I’d worked from home / in different locations a bit for ten years so overall it was less of a shock.
 
I worked from home for 6 months before I eventually retired during lockdown or thereabouts. Whilst I didn't miss the commute, the travelling, the Hotel stays and a lot of the clart on and whilst I didn't necessarily miss the 'social' aspect of work as much as other people might/do, there were elements of my job that I had to do on-line and virtually that previously, and most effectively, required face-to-face engagement with individuals or groups. If I'd had to do that online stuff more often or as a permanent feature of my regular job I'd not have lasted long and if I'd been a younger man with prospect of that type of work stretching ahead of me beyond the current crisis I'd be looking for another job.
 
George Kaplan said:
I worked from home for 6 months before I eventually retired during lockdown or thereabouts. Whilst I didn't miss the commute, the travelling, the Hotel stays and a lot of the clart on and whilst I didn't necessarily miss the 'social' aspect of work as much as other people might/do, there were elements of my job that I had to do on-line and virtually that previously, and most effectively, required face-to-face engagement with individuals or groups. If I'd had to do that online stuff more often or as a permanent feature of my regular job I'd not have lasted long and if I'd been a younger man with prospect of that type of work stretching ahead of me beyond the current crisis I'd be looking for another job.
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Everyone raves on about zoom and whilst it is probably one of the better pieces of tech group calls are a shambles. No you go. Oh sorry. No you it's fine. You can't beat sitting round a table or going for a coffee and discussing ideas. You pick up info, speak to people, say hello etc
 
monkeytassle said:
Everyone raves on about zoom and whilst it is probably one of the better pieces of tech group calls are a shambles. No you go. Oh sorry. No you it's fine. You can't beat sitting round a table or going for a coffee and discussing ideas. You pick up info, speak to people, say hello etc
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Try facilitating a team workshop on behavioural preferences and developing a plan for improving internal communications, customer service, effectiveness and efficiency with a team of 15 people.

They gave great feedback to my department head but I hated every minute. Every thing that you’d expect to be a technical challenge - happened. That kind of thing is challenging enough when you have a dysfunctional team in room with you... but via Zoom ... nightmare. Loathed it.
 
George Kaplan said:
Try facilitating a team workshop on behavioural preferences and developing a plan for improving internal communications, customer service, effectiveness and efficiency with a team of 15 people.

They gave great feedback to my department head but I hated every minute. Every thing that you’d expect to be a technical challenge - happened. That kind of thing is challenging enough when you have a dysfunctional team in room with you... but via Zoom ... nightmare. Loathed it.
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Just look at that parish meeting.
 
James said:
I don't think it'll be as bad once the pubs and restaurants open and we can go see friends and family again. It's a bit shit at the minute as everything is so tedious and there's no break from it.

Funnily enough I had a site visit to CW on Friday. CW really is one of the weirdest places in the country isn't it. Like a slice of Toronto cut out and dropped into the east end.
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Spot with the first bit. No one was really complaining during lockdown 1 when the weather was fantastic (pretty much all of April were warm summers days), knocking off half an hour earlier than normal and spending a bit time in the garden after work with a drink or two thinking then that this would have pretty much blown over by autumn at the latest.....fast forward to now and it's been a tedious slog each day hardly leaving the house with utterly ***** weather outside mainly and looking forward to having a break at the weekend however with nowhere to go which makes them just feel like an extended dinner break.....

Most people I know are saying their day now consists of even more pointless meetings too meaning they have less of a productive working window to get their heads down and get stuff done when people aren't pestering them on teams/zoom for something which could easily be provided or answered for in an email. That's true of myself anyway.

The effects of not being able to see friends and the like is really getting to a lot now whereas it wasn't really a few months ago and before then.

Most people I know are just fed up of all this now.
 
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Back to school next Monday for me. Online lessons are a bit soulless teaching kids.

Not looking forward to the A19 though.
 
Been working from for nearly 12 months now, and I was struggling with it after a week. Miss the daily interaction of a busy office and being out and about walking or getting Metro between work sites.

Had the opportunity offered by line manager to work in office two days a week in July/August, which helped my mental health a huge amount. But H&S soon got wind at put a stop to it.

Took the decision at that point at the end of August to use some of my holiday cash back to change my home working set up which helped, but still not keen on WFH. So my set up went from picture one to picture two. Converted the small bedroom into home office set up, which only got used when brother and his wife were visiting from Ireland...

Early months of WFH...
https://imgur.com/a/FlCvIUu

Last five months of WFH...
https://imgur.com/a/9fghVSm
 
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