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Khukuri said:
When India go on and declare at 170/5 in their second innings, how will we feel about this pitch?
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I think people will still question how fair a contest between bat and ball it is breaking up on day 1 however England have underperformed as well, some inconsistent bowling in the first innings. For me its a case of wait to see what else they offer in the next two matches on the pitches. If its much the same then its definitely gone a bit too far in home field favour.
 
mackembhoy said:
The pitches south Africa played on against these I think in 2018.

Think 2 got reported to the ICC
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In India? How does that make it better? It just makes it worse imo. Just means they've got previous for making shambolic pitches when they feel threatened. If it was in SA then I retract this statement. :lol:
 
SAFC 83 said:
In India? How does that make it better? It just makes it worse imo. Just means they've got previous for making shambolic pitches when they feel threatened. If it was in SA then I retract this statement. :lol:
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Yeah it was in SA. One in Joburg is the one I remember. Balls rearing up off a length on day 2
 
Julio_Schwarz said:
I think people will still question how fair a contest between bat and ball it is breaking up on day 1 however England have underperformed as well, some inconsistent bowling in the first innings. For me its a case of wait to see what else they offer in the next two matches on the pitches. If its much the same then its definitely gone a bit too far in home field favour.
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I agree with this but imo, no pitch should be exploding through the top like it was in the first session.
 
Khukuri said:
Tbh, I don’t disagree with you. This pitch takes it a bit too far. My point is that both rank turners and heavy grass are no different in spirit. Both should be sanctioned. But whereas these turners are always talked about as shit pitches, seam-friendly pitches are always talked up about how they are stern examinations of a batsman. I was merely stating that I have never understood why a spinners paradise is a bad pitch but a seamers paradise is a good one
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When was the last time you saw ‘heavy grass’ on a Test wicket in England?

On another point, pitches are often produced with a bit of grass on to ensure they last longer - the total opposite to this shell hole.
 
SAFC 83 said:
In India? How does that make it better? It just makes it worse imo. Just means they've got previous for making shambolic pitches when they feel threatened. If it was in SA then I retract this statement. :lol:
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No it wasn't. If I recall Rahane was the only batsman of either side who got decent runs in the series.

Don't think anyone scored more than 300 in the series.

But games in England in April/May you get all 4 innings below 300.
 
This test has gone, mind i like the look of these two.
Foakes has good technique.

Laughing at the Indian crowd and the garden furniture they are sitting on.
Social distancing?
 
mackembhoy said:
No it wasn't. If I recall Rahane was the only batsman of either side who got decent runs in the series.

Don't think anyone scored more than 300 in the series.

But games in England in April/May you get all 4 innings below 300.
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just because someone plays amazing and plays a wonder knock doesnt make it a sub standard pitch

it should be reported, and I am sure it will be

I dont htink you even believe what you are saying here

just called this place an echo chamber then literally proved my point in your next post!
 
mackembhoy said:
No it wasn't. If I recall Rahane was the only batsman of either side who got decent runs in the series.

Don't think anyone scored more than 300 in the series.

But games in England in April/May you get all 4 innings below 300.
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We don't play Test matches in England in April and very rarely in May.
 
anyway it will get easier with the ball softer like, if we had 1 of root or stokes there, shame

lets salvage some pride here ayway

haway lads
Paddy O'Dors said:
We don't play Test matches in England in April and very rarely in May.
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thats also weather conditions, which we can do nothing about

people keep forgetting this distinction, this pitch is doctored

you can't fix the weather like, if its cloudy, its cloidy, and it will swing, its nout our choice
 
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brandon said:
When was the last time you saw ‘heavy grass’ on a Test wicket in England?

On another point, pitches are often produced with a bit of grass on to ensure they last longer - the total opposite to this shell hole.
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I know this veered into ‘England v India’ territory because of the context of the conversation, but my initial comment was really country agnostic, it was just about spin-friendly tracks vs seam-friendly ones. If a test match played in a seam-friendly pitch produces 4 innings where scores are around 200-odd, I have never ever heard of anyone calling the pitch sub-standard. But same scores on a spinning track everyone is up in arms. I just want to understand why this is the case. Maybe I’m missing something obvious, but all I’m doing is looking at this from the perspective of balance of bat v ball.
 
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