To be fair, it was him who said he would. You are right he is not going to sell on terms that aren't acceptable to him.
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Takeover News/Rumours - Part 42
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hertsmackem
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his terms will be when he has made what he expected to make, and also when he gets bored of owning us
JERUDONG No.10
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Well would you prefer that there was no investment now? What's the other options!?
And ultimately that's his right, whether we as fans agree with it or not. He owns the club at present, not us.
johnny kayo
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Let’s just wait and see what happens, no one has any idea how the deal and ownership is going to be structured, we will find out soon enough
Its like waiting in the doctors waiting room to see if its going to be good news or bad
Left For Dead
Winger
2 years ago they were trying to get the operation lean. They were spouting marketing shite to boost revenue and and dealing with loads of players contracts like rodwell - umpteen headaches were they not. They shouldn't have sold some of those young prospects but how do we know they didnt need the money to pay Bill's? They were also wasting money in grigg and selling our route out of league 1 in maja.
johnny kayo
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Aye that’s spot on,
But this has been the whole problem throughout.....Buying a club knowing full well you havent got enough money to keep the club challenging if your 1 year business plan fails. i.e getting promoted the full season then sell on...hence sell your long term assets for short term gain
Left For Dead
Winger
Short had one option, liquidate club or sell to Donald and hope he can get promotion and short would get some money back. That's it really, we had no options. Donald isn't the right man to move us to premier but people make mistakes and to be fair, they are only 2 years into a project
If they needed the money for bills they shouldn't have spent money on league one plodders and kept the youngsters. What are we paying O'Brien and Graham now? I would far rather have Greenwood and Hugill in those roles.
2 years into a catastrophically failed project I think we have to all agree on
Scorer
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I don’t like Methven at all and not the biggest fan of Donald either. I hope both are sidelined and soon head off but from a purely pragmatic point of view if they are making these decisions and putting in forward thinking coaches and directors that’s still a good thing and in a way if the decisions are good it doesn’t really matter who is making them.
This is a good point as well, does it really matter what happened in the past if they now start making great decisions? I guess it's a question of trust and confidence mainly.
samaistonsrightfoot
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Again. That's not what you said.
And that would be totally dependent on a number of factors neither of us are party to.
I'd rather Donald, Methven and Sartori weren't involved in the club in any way. Their ownership has been a disaster at best with the devastation of the academy, short term sale prioritisation, lies, disappearances, multiple malicious and deliberate attacks on the fanbase and fake lawsuits against newspapers reportng correct information. Their ongoing involvement is already poisoning what could be/should be good news.
I have no idea what other interest there has been, is, or will be but there's been reports of several interested parties since the day he took over, and particulary in the last few months.
To suggest that people should be buzzing with them now because they were 3 years ago, when there may or may not be other options is utter bollocks.
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JERUDONG No.10
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Where did I say that people should be "buzzing"? Absolutely nowhere. I'm just more realistic about where we are and what's possible under the current ownership construct....I'd like to think that the recent appointments have a greater chance at achieving this. Whether they do or not remains to be seen.
Guinness Guzzler
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I'm not sure that's quite true mind. I don't believe that Stewart Donald was the only person in the world prepared to buy a Sunderland AFC that was going to have the vast majority of its debt wiped out. Why Short chose Donald is a mystery but I certainly don't agree that it was take that deal or liquidate the whole club! In fact Donald has even mentioned that there were other people interested. And aye, people do make mistakes, but fuck me Donald has made more than a few and has shown himself to be incapable of even achieving the relatively small ambition of getting us out of this division, whilst simultaneously destroying the academy which should, in theory, have been a cornerstone for our re-emergence
samaistonsrightfoot
Striker
People didn't have a problem with Sartori years ago was what you referred to suggesting that people should still feel the same way now.
By the same logic people were buzzing with Donald years ago so that means everyone should be buzzing now?
Left For Dead
Winger
Well their poor understanding of what's needed ON the pitch was revealed again. They said Parky was like the Sheff Utd manager. Bollocks. Donald is desperate for somebody to turn grigg round si he doesn't have that milestone round his neck. He wont budge until safc is a well oiled machine making money, IMO. I wouldnt.
KittenMittens
Midfield
This is not true.
Ellis Short narrowed the field down to Donald and only Donald, because he was the only one prepared to give him money from the club's future income (the parachute payments). That's it. That's the reason. There were other offers, Short just put the EFL in a position where they couldn't say no.
When Short went into the EFL meeting and said that it was either Donald or administration, what he meant was that he wouldn't go back to any of the other bidders and try to work something out with more reputable people, he would just put the club into administration to spite the EFL. You can bet that we would have been blaming the EFL at that point, rather than counting our blessings for avoiding Donald and co.
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