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For me the idea is brilliant but the timing could be better.

In addition to our black friends we have women, the LGBT groups and other forms of gender identity that this time last week didn't even exist that we can't even describe and Muslims probably, all claiming a slice of the 'rights' pie now. They are all now seem to be asking for more rights and social freedom. And it's the same culprit who is responsible it seems for the oppression of them all. White, middle class males.

It could just be me but who eise thinks it isn't just black people right now who are asking for more rights?
 
phillips10 said:
Got to be honest mate I was very sympathetic at first as I think the vast majority of the country was. What changed my outlook somewhat was the horrible little scrotes scrambling all over the cenotaph and attempting to burn it’s flags.

It only takes the actions of a few morons to completely change a lot of the population’s opinion unfortunately.

Now we are all as divided as ever, probably more divided than at any point in my lifetime. It’s put race relations back decades IMO.
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You shouldn't have let them change yours surely?
 
joemcdokes said:
No one else gave a shit but you, oh and why the raised fists while you're on?
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The raised fist wasn't officially part of the Premier Leagues support of "no room for racism" as far as I'm aware so I'd say that was individual choice. It's got a long history and a lot of meanings that one, I wouldn't like to speculate what it means to each individual.

Care to explain what you think it means without any hyperbolic nonsense like your first post?
 
burchmackem said:
Well, I don't know what's happening over there, but since you mentioned Rochester, I assume you're referring to statues being taken down here.

Let me offer you a hypothetical:

Germany, at the end of the WWII, is allowed to quietly surrender with the understanding that Hitler and his like mustn't attempt an overthrow of government in the future. Bavaria remains a pro-Nazi stronghold, but the north is firmly opposed to Naziism. As the years go by, the horrors of Naziism are whitewashed out of Bavarian schools and official histories and the Nazi flag starts cropping up on regional flags, front porches, etc. Statues are erected to honor Nazi generals and Hitler himself. This is all explained away as 'Bavarian Pride'.

I hope you see where I'm going with this.

As far as I'm concerned, if a statue has been set up to honor a slaver, a Confederate general, etc., especially if it was erected in the latter half of the 1800s or early 1900s as a way to publicly honor the white hegemonies in the Southern US, then they can all come down now. And yes, it IS about erasing history -- a history of white on black genocide. A history of horrific, citywide massacres in the South of blacks. A history of unpunished lynchings. Fuck anyone who say this is about 'Southern Pride'.
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Lovely stuff. Agree completely and most of my southern colleagues do too. The Confederate fetishists have the nerve to talk about Kap kneeling for the anthem while playing Dixie and flying the stars and bars of traitors.

It's pretty funny, I reckon 99% of people here would agree with lowering Premier League salaries and using that money to fund nursing, police, public services etc.

And those are fine, Marxist-rooted redistribution of wealth style policies.

But I don't think agreeing with that makes you a Marxist, or a member of the Communist party, because that would be ludicrous.

So maybe you can see why supporting the term 'Black Lives Matter' is not the same as agreeing with everything that a VERY loose organisation with the same name says.

You divs.
 
Flash Gordon said:
The raised fist wasn't officially part of the Premier Leagues support of "no room for racism" as far as I'm aware so I'd say that was individual choice. It's got a long history and a lot of meanings that one, I wouldn't like to speculate what it means to each individual.

Care to explain what you think it means without any hyperbolic nonsense like your first post?
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The raising of the fist was a black power thing.
Now I doubt any of those raising their fists have the same extreme views as those lot.
 
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