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I had a quick look and there’s an article on the 29th that says

“Donald revealed last week that he'd been approached to be an investor in a consortium looking to take over at Sunderland.

Donald said he 'wouldn’t rule it out' but claimed it was unlikely anything would happen and it would take an “absolutely sensational” deal for him to get involved.”

Can’t find the original article though 🤷‍♂️
He found that sensational deal, he didn’t have to put most of the money in to buy the club himself the Premier league thanks to Charlie’s discussions with ES would do that for him 👍
 

Not saying you're wrong, but I did a custom date search on google and can't find anything before the day he took over.
if memory serves, it was amid rumours that he was trying to get a consortium together including the Spanish people, can't remember their name. He was denying it at the time. Something like that anyway.
 
So we're all banking on a journo who admitted on twitter he talks shite on total sport to fill air time.

Is that where were at ha
 
IIRC he was initially approached to be the 'English face' of the Spanish consortium?

Then when he looked into it he either decided to go it alone or was encouraged to by Short?

I'm dragging this purely from memory now but I'm pretty sure kitten mittens and Ton Ton Macou were giving the same updates, then their info split when Donald went off?
@KittenMittens appeared to have a link with the Spanish group and Ton Ton with Donald?

Aye, I'm sure it's been said before that the name Madrox came from MADRid and OXford. Somewhere along the lines the Spanish got fucked off and we were left with just Donald and his mates, mint!


Yes on both counts.

My source was inside the Madrid part of the deal, not someone who was an acquaintance or a second hand source, someone inside the inner workings of the deal as much as that is possible.

Donald was brought on exactly as the article mentioned says, as a minority investor. He was seen as a key link because he'd had experience of ownership in lower leagues of English football. We can all second guess that thinking now, but we've also all seen he can talk a good game... he was meant to be the CEO like Jim Rodwell, but with a significant stake.

After the article was published, they moved ahead and were very close to completing, but in the penultimate week, he demanded that instead of being a minority owner, they split the deal 33% for Donald, 33% for person X (who I now think was Sartori) and 33% for Madrid.

Of course, Madrid knew that if Person X and Donald were friends and aligned on how to run us, this would leave them as the real minority in the business and declined to do that, but Donald refused to budge and they didn't want to go in on their own (this is a big thing as most investors like to share risk and their previous experience was Segunda Liga in Spain and below). They pulled out, leaving Donald to do the deal on his own. Their opinion of him was basically mud after he pulled this stunt and blew up the deal because he wanted to be the guy in charge.

Whether the deal to do us was tacitly broached by Donald/Methven with Short before he pulled the heel turn I don't know, but I suspect that Donald identified a way to get the deal done using the parachute payments during the financial discussions as a consortium, realised he could do it himself if Short was in on it, and then decided to make his Spanish partners an offer they couldn't accept.
 
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Here’s a thread on it from @Botchie Quite apt in hindsight
also worth noting that the deal was only agreed in principle at the end of April. It didn’t actually get sorted til mid to late may. We knew a lot about this takeover and the people involved before it actually happened
I keep telling everyone that I have the ability to suss folk within minutes of meeting them. ;) :lol:
 
Yes on both counts.

My source was inside the Madrid part of the deal, not someone who was an acquaintance or a second hand source, someone inside the inner workings of the deal as much as that is possible.

Donald was brought on exactly as the article mentioned says, as a minority investor. He was seen as a key link because he'd had experience of ownership in lower leagues of English football. We can all second guess that thinking now, but we've also all seen he can talk a good game... he was meant to be the CEO like Jim Rodwell, but with a significant stake.

After the article was published, they moved ahead and were very close to completing, but in the penultimate week, he demanded that instead of being a minority owner, they split the deal 33% for Donald, 33% for person X (who I now think was Sartori) and 33% for Madrid.

Of course, Madrid knew that if Person X and Donald were friends and aligned on how to run us, this would leave them as the real minority in the business and declined to do that, but Donald refused to budge and they didn't want to go in on their own (this is a big thing as most investors like to share risk and their previous experience was Segunda Liga in Spain and below). They pulled out, leaving Donald to do the deal on his own. Their opinion of him was basically mud after he pulled this stunt and blew up the deal because he wanted to be the guy in charge.

Whether the deal to do us was tacitly broached by Donald/Methven with Short before he pulled the heel turn I don't know, but I suspect that Donald identified a way to get the deal done using the parachute payments during the financial discussions as a consortium, realised he could do it himself if Short was in on it, and then decided to make his Spanish partners an offer they couldn't accept.

You've probably answered this numerous times before, but did the Madrid investors have significant resources to put into the club?
 
I don't, I just dislike the way people are categorised on here based on what they believe. If people want to say they believe or don't believe, then good for them, that's all. They don't need to convince others, but they should be able to express an opinion.
It’s not just on here tho mate. It’s endemic in society.
 
It absolutely kills some people on here, the thought that people might actually hear things about the club.

Is this how they go on in real life as well? :lol:Down the pub and someone shares a bit of gossip about the footy or anything really...butting in constantly calling bullshit? f***ing weird behaviour to be honest.

It might happen, it might not. Some people are in a position to hear things, some arent. Weird little men on this forum seem to take issue with that though.
 
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