Wycombe v Oxford kick off 1930 Sky sports football.

[Alisander thunders]

I understand your probably a WUM but this beyond stupid. You should be the manager of Tranmere obviously, so you could have told the players not to leave it till the later part of the season to pick up good form as there might be a pandemic that will end the season early and fuck them over. I honestly don't know why every manager doesn't go with the strategy of winning from the first game of the season, revolutionary!

The way they were playing at the point the league was stopped makes a big difference as form ebbs and flows through the season. The way they were playing they were going to stay up. Not to take this into account is wrong.

A WUM or realistic? Nothing I have said is false, it’s accurate and reflects the real world.

Not sure why we’re discussing the details of Tranmere Rovers, but as I've said multiple times - they only have themselves to blame and the outcome (based on facts and real maths) was the most fair and proportionate in the strange circumstances before us.

The EFL couldn’t care if we finished 1st or 24th.

We’re really not that important to them like.

Your random thoughts also make no sense - it’d be better if we were promoted to the Championship (also run by the EFL) as our gates would be higher, at extra cost, earning more money.

@0321safc this one x

Your facts consisted of claiming Wycombe finished above us when they were a place below when it was halted. They were promoted to third via a weighted system, not due to performance on the pitch.
The fact they were placed third is correct, the notion their points total placed them there is not. Not all teams had played the same number of games so it isnt fact, it is a projection.

I’m not claiming they finished above us - if you look at the league table, they did.

They were promoted due to the 34 performances on the pitch they put in, your comments are just bizarre.

 

[0321safc]

A WUM or realistic? Nothing I have said is false, it’s accurate and reflects the real world.

Not sure why we’re discussing the details of Tranmere Rovers, but as I've said multiple times - they only have themselves to blame and the outcome (based on facts and real maths) was the most fair and proportionate in the strange circumstances before us.


@0321safc this one x

No but gate receipts are important to them. ££££. I’ve always maintained the premier league is/was corrupt but has no idea about the play off gate receipts. They get a cut. Having us and Portsmouth in them as opposed to Burton and Fleetwood is massive for them financially. This has never been scrutinised though, I think the vast majority of people don’t even know this happens.

 

[Alisander thunders]

Also ignoring the fact Wycombe just won a 2-legged tie and a final (against top 6 teams) to also get promoted. But it’s beyond belief they deserve it.

 

[Scunny Dan]

Whether we win them or not is neither here nor there, but who would Rick Parry what in the play offs next season if he was faced with a choice of either us or Burton ? The EFL have a vested interest in the teams who get into the play offs. That can’t be right, no matter which way you spin it.

You genuinely think there is a conspiracy between league officials and match officials to ensure SAFC don't achieve automatic promotion, and massage them in to the POs? Some wide and ingenious operation that will be involving thousands of people...

 

[Father Jack Hackett]

A WUM or realistic? Nothing I have said is false, it’s accurate and reflects the real world.

Not sure why we’re discussing the details of Tranmere Rovers, but as I've said multiple times - they only have themselves to blame and the outcome (based on facts and real maths) was the most fair and proportionate in the strange circumstances before us.


@0321safc this one x


I’m not claiming they finished above us - if you look at the league table, they did.

They were promoted due to the 34 performances on the pitch they put in, your comments are just bizarre.

They had 59 points from 34 games and were 8th. Peterborough had 60 from 35 in 6th.
You claimed Wycombe performed sufficiently to finish in 3rd place. They didnt, they were placed there via a weighted system.
You seemingly like dealing in facts well those are the facts - points won when the season was halted.

 

[Alisander thunders]

No but gate receipts are important to them. ££££. I’ve always maintained the premier league is/was corrupt but has no idea about the play off gate receipts. They get a cut. Having us and Portsmouth in them as opposed to Burton and Fleetwood is massive for them financially. This has never been scrutinised though, I think the vast majority of people don’t even know this happens.

You’ve completely missed the point though. We would earn more gate receipts in the Championship - so why wouldn’t that benefit them more?

Our improved gates in the Championship are worth 10 times an extra 100 people turning up to our away games.

If that is the case, how did the EFL allow Newcastle/West Ham/Leeds(soon) to be promoted from the Championship? They should’ve ruined that for them too. All that money gone.

 

[0321safc]

You genuinely think there is a conspiracy between league officials and match officials to ensure SAFC don't achieve automatic promotion, and massage them in to the POs? Some wide and ingenious operation that will be involving thousands of people...

It wouldn’t require thousands of people. The referees that the EFL themselves pick is all that is required. Taking us out of it, do you think it’s right that the EFL have a vested interested in who is in the play offs ? Obviously they want bigger clubs with bigger gates in them. It’s human nature.

 

[Alisander thunders]

They had 59 points from 34 games and were 8th. Peterborough had 60 from 35 in 6th.
You claimed Wycombe performed sufficiently to finish in 3rd place. They didnt, they were placed there via a weighted system.

You’re saying it yourself, I don’t need to.

They had more points, over the games they played, to finish above Peterborough.

Weird you can’t see it. What is the alternative? Punish Wycombe for playing a game less?

 

[scott934]

It's all just a victim of the fixture list. It can't be right that some teams had an easier run in, teams around them to play, games in hand.

That said, we weren't the biggest victims of it, it's just another example of the joke league we're in, and deserve to be in.

 

[Billy Batts]

So outside the play-offs then and in poor form.

What the actual fuck were yous doing for their second goal tonight man?!

 

[Father Jack Hackett]

You’re saying it yourself, I don’t need to.

They had more points, over the games they played, to finish above Peterborough.

Weird you can’t see it. What is the alternative? Punish Wycombe for playing a game less?

No, it wouldn't be punishing them. They voted to end the season with a caveat meaning to weighted system would render them third. They voted to end the season, so it should have been ended. I would have been fine with that.

 

[0321safc]

You’ve completely missed the point though. We would earn more gate receipts in the Championship - so why wouldn’t that benefit them more?

Our improved gates in the Championship are worth 10 times an extra 100 people turning up to our away games.

If that is the case, how did the EFL allow Newcastle/West Ham/Leeds(soon) to be promoted from the Championship? They should’ve ruined that for them too. All that money gone.

They make a fortune out of championship gate receipts whoever is in them. In this league the differences are huge, 3,000 crowds Fleetwood or 30,000 crowds Sunderland. In this league dodgy decisions happen willy nilly and no one bats an eyelid, even in the championship bad decisions are scrutinised from every angle. So many TV games. I was dumbfounded when I found out the EFL have a vested interest in the clubs who partake in the play offs.

 

[OUFC1]

I stand by what I said. The EFL next season will want us to finish 3rd - 6th. Ofcourse they will. They have a vested interest in it. They get 50% of the play off gate receipts. I was astonished when I found this out, someone posted it on here around 15 months ago.

let’s for one moment pretend that might be true, how do they achieve that? Are you suggesting that they bribe officials?

 

[Alisander thunders]

It's all just a victim of the fixture list. It can't be right that some teams had an easier run in, teams around them to play, games in hand.

That said, we weren't the biggest victims of it, it's just another example of the joke league we're in, and deserve to be in.

Completely agree.

Not perfectly right but the fairest outcome of all those available.

 

[Scunny Dan]

It wouldn’t require thousands of people. The referees that the EFL themselves pick is all that is required. Taking us out of it, do you think it’s right that the EFL have a vested interested in who is in the play offs ? Obviously they want bigger clubs with bigger gates in them. It’s human nature.

Do you think all EFL match officials are in on this, or just certain "Assets" whom are dispatched to your games a-la Operation Blackbriar?

 

[0321safc]

let’s for one moment pretend that might be true, how do they achieve that? Are you suggesting that they bribe officials?

Would it be that big a surprise ? Juventus did it for years, was proven in a court of law was it not. We are niave to think it doesn’t happen in this country.

 

[scott934]

Completely agree.

Not perfectly right but the fairest outcome of all those available.

I'm not sure it's the fairest way, but it's the one they've gone with.

 

[Alisander thunders]

They make a fortune out of championship gate receipts whoever is in them. In this league the differences are huge, 3,000 crowds Fleetwood or 30,000 crowds Sunderland. In this league dodgy decisions happen willy nilly and no one bats an eyelid, even in the championship bad decisions are scrutinised from every angle. So many TV games. I was dumbfounded when I found out the EFL have a vested interest in the clubs who partake in the play offs.

How can they earn more from 30,000 in League One, than 30,000 in the Championship (at a higher matchday cost)? What Fleetwood get is irrelevant, we all play in the EFL system - they’d only lose it if we were promoted to the Premier League or relegated to non-league.

That’s ignoring the fact we didn’t get 30,000 every single week in League One.

I wish you weren’t being serious, but I think you are.

 

[0321safc]

Do you think all EFL match officials are in on this, or just certain "Assets" whom are dispatched to your games a-la Operation Blackbriar?

All in on it possibly. All of football is corrupt, play off gate receipts are a drop in the ocean compared to premier league relegation. Look at the penalties Watford were gift wrapped on Saturday. On Toontastic they could tell they were just handing the game to Watford.

How can they earn more from 30,000 in League One, than 30,000 in the Championship (at a higher matchday cost)? What Fleetwood get is irrelevant, we all play in the EFL system - they’d only lose it if we were promoted to the Premier League or relegated to non-league.

That’s ignoring the fact we didn’t get 30,000 every single week in League One.

I wish you weren’t being serious, but I think you are.

All clubs in the championship play offs gets significant gate receipts, league one would have been chicken feed but as the clubs get bigger in this league it’ll be good news for the EFL. I’m resigned to the fact we will never get out of this league. I’m doubtful we will even be in existence in a few years time.

 

[Alisander thunders]

All in on it possibly. All of football is corrupt, play off gate receipts are a drop in the ocean compared to premier league relegation. Look at the penalties Watford were gift wrapped on Saturday. On Toontastic they could tell they were just handing the game to Watford.

Please tell me you’re sat with a colander on your head?

Did 5G cause Coronavirus?

All in on it possibly. All of football is corrupt, play off gate receipts are a drop in the ocean compared to premier league relegation. Look at the penalties Watford were gift wrapped on Saturday. On Toontastic they could tell they were just handing the game to Watford.

All clubs in the championship play offs gets significant gate receipts, league one would have been chicken feed but as the clubs get bigger in this league it’ll be good news for the EFL. I’m resigned to the fact we will never get out of this league. I’m doubtful we will even be in existence in a few years time.

Please tell me more, it’s fantastic

30,000 fans in League One at Sunderland earns more for the EFL than 30,000 fans in the Championship.

Incredible.