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A very powerful moment in British sport

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TicoTorres said:
Because you think black lives don’t matter. And don’t try and worm your way out of it. That’s ultimately what you and your ilk think. There you go.
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You are pathetic and the whole reason this country is in the state it is in.
I'll give you an example i detest every single thing about the IRA but after reading about the history of Ireland I can understand why James McLean refused to wear a poppy .
This biggest problem with the majority of you uneducated left wing idiots is you don't seem to realise there is difference between BLM and the fact that the lives of black people matter.
I disagree with quite a few of BLM views and agenda's but I do believe that the lives of black people matter, 2 totally different things if you can't understand that then you obviously have the problem
 

Until the future generations parent without prejudice there will be not much change of any consequence.We will just have people from all sides jumping on the bandwagon using it for their own devices.
Society can try currently with demos ,increasing awareness shows of solidarity etc but most people over 16 are already moulded and indoctrinated in their ways and beliefs due to their parenting or lifes circumstances.
There will hopefully be a steady watering down of prejudice as a more free-thinking society evolves and they themselves create a fairer environment with fewer barriers for all races ,it can not be forced it must develop over time.
There will always be haves and have nots, just hopefully not so dependent on the colour of an individuals skin.
 
dangermows said:
Whether or not you think its shallow, football is huge globally and this strengthens the cause. Wonder who would have a problem with this? Hmm.


Thankfully this isn't politics.
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People who say keep politics out of football don't understand what politics is - it's impossible to keep politics out of anything really. Politics is about structures, framework, power, resources. The premier league itself is a political construct.
 
All lives matter. We are all humans, regardless.
Nobody should have preference over anybody in terms of visual differences, only ability and skills as preference for tasks, whatever they may be.
The potential reality is, we are all being played against each other. It's almost like it's some kind of human chess game played out by those who seem to have carte blanche to play it out.
 
Iain said:
You are pathetic and the whole reason this country is in the state it is in.
I'll give you an example i detest every single thing about the IRA but after reading about the history of Ireland I can understand why James McLean refused to wear a poppy .
This biggest problem with the majority of you uneducated left wing idiots is you don't seem to realise there is difference between BLM and the fact that the lives of black people matter.
I disagree with quite a few of BLM views and agenda's but I do believe that the lives of black people matter, 2 totally different things if you can't understand that then you obviously have the problem
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are you MBH?
 
Iain said:
You are pathetic and the whole reason this country is in the state it is in.
I'll give you an example i detest every single thing about the IRA but after reading about the history of Ireland I can understand why James McLean refused to wear a poppy .
This biggest problem with the majority of you uneducated left wing idiots is you don't seem to realise there is difference between BLM and the fact that the lives of black people matter.
I disagree with quite a few of BLM views and agenda's but I do believe that the lives of black people matter, 2 totally different things if you can't understand that then you obviously have the problem
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There are things in every movement we don’t agree with though. It’s the issue of group/party politics in a way. There are always things that we struggle with when people look at anything from a single issue perspective. Same with the LGBTQ campaigning, feminism. All minority campaigning pushes hard and asks questions and inevitably the more challenging the policy the more people panic and question back. It isn’t a bad thing though it questions the way we think about things, it asks questions about what we’ve come to accept. Of course there are some in BLM who will be more extreme than others. The issue here is that the worse we treat people the angrier they get and it fires off a reaction. There is systemic racism here - windrush Is an example, also lots of anti immigration policy and campaigning is racist - less complaints about Australians and New Zealand than Jamaicans or Iraqis but there are a lot of the former in London and the policing of this is brutal. So it kicks of a counter movement and pushes people together. If we were all challenging this the right way there’d be less campaigning. The issue as you can see on here and other Social media sites is that lots of people support hateful politics and refuse to examine themselves.
 
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ObserverPhil said:
My Boy Harry infamous right wing poster(when he's not banned)
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H well no thats not me, I'm not right wing or left wing just say things the way I see them.i know a lot of people won't agree with me and a lot will but that is life.
I dont discriminate against people that have different views to me as that is life what I do object to is when people start casting aspersions at other people when they clearly don't know the simple facts
 
Iain said:
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H well no thats not me, I'm not right wing or left wing just say things the way I see them.i know a lot of people won't agree with me and a lot will but that is life.
I dont discriminate against people that have different views to me as that is life what I do object to is when people start casting aspersions at other people when they clearly don't know the simple facts
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But But But, you are either a Liberal or Right wing surely there's nothing in between? That's the message iv'e been getting of late from the msn et al.
 
Iain said:
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H well no thats not me, I'm not right wing or left wing just say things the way I see them.i know a lot of people won't agree with me and a lot will but that is life.
I dont discriminate against people that have different views to me as that is life what I do object to is when people start casting aspersions at other people when they clearly don't know the simple facts
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Right wing and left wing people say it as they see it and one of the most disputed things in society now are ‘facts’ which ones are true and which ones are manipulated.
 
peter w said:
because it ran out of steam and the movement had little momentum. Now, the movement is going across the world and most people are getting behind it to ensure that the momentum doesn't disappear, allowing governments off the hook, and forcing them and our societies to hold a mirror up to ourselves. That so many people are angry about that - the mirror to ourselves - shows where BLM are coming from.

we should get behind BLM and accept that we need to change ourselves and then our societies first. Only then will we see real change.
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I personally feel i dont need to change, i treat people how they treat me, whether they’re back white green or any other colour
 
it's all just political correctness gone mad

there's thousands of african kids die each day from starvation that should be bringing us to our knees

social media has a lot to answer for
 
The way this ‘movement’ is progressing with more and more extreme views on both sides and way too much ‘posturing’ to show how much some care, then this is going to backfire massively and create more damage than progress. Some of the activists who have decided that they will now try and make a name for themselves through the media will unfortunately fan flames that were not there before. Such a difficult balance but don’t think it’s quite right at the moment. I utterly abhor the ‘posturing’ of some politicians and to an extent the PL to show ‘they care’ . Utter lip service
 
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