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March to June 2020 - NEWCASTLE UTD fc

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Newcastle could buy their way to success but have shown low virtues/morals welcoming them. They’re on a different trajectory to a lot of teams.....

on the flip side SAFC is going bust but at least we haven’t sold our soul in the process. We just won’t have a football club in the future.
if human rights abusers are being welcomed to football, I’m no longer interested in it as a “game” ......it’s a filthy rotten sport
 
Attendances pre 1993

Moot point. Similar for most clubs that there was spike in the 90s, the late 70s and through the 80s were low for most clubs compared to the 90s onwards.
Sunderland also had low attendances then. Look how high Sunderlands attendances jumped in 97 with the new ground. Extra 15-20k supporters
 
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Moot point. Similar for most clubs that there was spike in the 90s, the late 70s and through the 80s were low for most clubs compared to the 90s onwards.
Sunderland also had low attendances then. Look how high Sunderlands attendances jumped in 97 with the new ground. Extra 15-20k supporters

Roker Park held 22,500k of course attendances would go up in a new stadium.
 
I remember seeing the photo with Leeds died 73 on it. No idea of back story or if it was fans or club who organised it. I wonder how Leeds took it ? You’d like to think they laughed it off but I can imagine them not seeing the funny side.

To be honest mate it was in very poor taste but in pre-social media days I'm not sure if anyone outside of Sunderland and the immediate area knew anything about it.
 
He can't he's talking shite we have superb support and so do you. Historically You get more through the gate and that's mainly because I think you have a bigger catchment area with Gateshead, Newcastle, Northumberland North tyneside etc
I find all this who has the best fans really really really boring

I agree with this.
 
Attendances pre 1993

Tbf if you look back throughout history they have a bigger (not better) support than we do, probably 4th or 5th biggest in the country. That's down to an accident of Geography and the sheer size of their catchment area more than any sign of loyalty though.

They have a free run of it all the way up past Berwick then across into Cumbria and huge parts of Durham and that's before you even consider their immediate catchment area. We are sandwiched in the middle of them and Boro. The numbers we get are incredible all things considered.
 
Roker Park held 22,500k of course attendances would go up in a new stadium.

I'm not talking about the capacity.
For example in 95/96 a first division title winning season Sunderland averaged 17,482. A season high of 22,047 and a low of 12,282.

The next time in that division 97/98 with a new stadium, the average for the season was 33,492 with a high of 40,712 and a low of 24,642.
 
Attendances pre 1993
Haway man the world knows they were always packed out before King Bottle Job went there
I'm not talking about the capacity.
For example in 95/96 a first division title winning season Sunderland averaged 17,482. A season high of 22,047 and a low of 12,282.

The next time in that division 97/98 with a new stadium, the average for the season was 33,492 with a high of 40,712 and a low of 24,642.
We weren't backed by big money and a messiah manager at the time though
Tbf if you look back throughout history they have a bigger (not better) support than we do, probably 4th or 5th biggest in the country. That's down to an accident of Geography and the sheer size of their catchment area more than any sign of loyalty though.

They have a free run of it all the way up past Berwick then across into Cumbria and huge parts of Durham and that's before you even consider their immediate catchment area. We are sandwiched in the middle of them and Boro. The numbers we get are incredible all things considered.
Go and fist a horse
 
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Haway man the world knows they were always packed out before King Bottle Job went there

We weren't backed by big money and a messiah manager at the time though

From 116 seasons, in 100 of those Newcastle have been on the top 10 in the country for average attendances, 5th highest of all time. It's a myth pedalled on here that Newcastle had no fans before 92. Totally stupid really, but people like to cling on to it.
 
I'm not talking about the capacity.
For example in 95/96 a first division title winning season Sunderland averaged 17,482. A season high of 22,047 and a low of 12,282.

The next time in that division 97/98 with a new stadium, the average for the season was 33,492 with a high of 40,712 and a low of 24,642.

In 96/97 we averaged 21k pretty much max capacity simply because we were playing in the premier league. The lower attendances in the first division we’re obvious because we were in the first division. Mags attendances we’re up because of their premier league status. No doubt about that. You wouldn’t have seen the increase in attendances if it wasn’t for Keegan and the ambition of the club.
 
In 96/97 we averaged 21k pretty much max capacity simply because we were playing in the premier league. The lower attendances in the first division we’re obvious because we were in the first division. Mags attendances we’re up because of their premier league status. No doubt about that. You wouldn’t have seen the increase in attendances if it wasn’t for Keegan and the ambition of the club.

Aye but my point is, the new stadium brought 15-20k extra fans.
Your lowest in the new stadium in 97/98 was 12k higher than your lowest at RP in a title winning season. 6k higher than the lowest in the premier league at RP.

Sunderland, like Newcastle and many other clubs saw a spike in attendances in the 90s after Italia 90 and the Taylor Report. Whatever the reasons you attribute it to, it happened for nearly everybody in the top 2 divisions.
All clubs attendances fluctuate due to many reasons, success, ownerships, economy etc.
What has always been obvious and despite all of this, both NUFC and SAFC have always pulled magnificent crowds.

I agree.
I'm not even having a go at Sunderland's numbers here. Its not even in doubt they are well supported.
But the lazy clichés about us having no support pre 92 is just bollocks.
 
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