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New buyers put off by £20 million hole in accounts

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chunksafc said:
@MADBOB THE MAKEM would you mind answering a few questions please?

1. Can you give 3 genuine reasons why we should be pleased with the last 2 years?
2. Why should we give the owner and his CEO more time?
3. Are the absent owners going to fund the club properly
4. Will the owners admit they will sell any player from youth team up to first team because we need the cash?
5. Why have the removed the paying back of the money used?
6. What good things have they achieved since taking over?
7. Does SD personally read this forum?
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I will try honestly
1, I can not and will not defend all their actions, they took on more than they could chew, they made errors in judgement on the manager and the scouting staff.
They did what they did with the best intentions, it's like a lot of business outside footy, it just did not go the way they wanted.
2. if the new guys don't happen, we have to hope FPP leave the balance of the loan/funding in place for team strengthening.(in fact we don't have another option) SD will not give the club to people who are less able to run the club than him.
3. IMHO if FPP leave the balance of the funds I think that's as good as it will get, please remember that's just IMHO.
4. Depends on the Cat of the AOL if we lose the cat 1 IMHO it will be a weight of our shoulders, just look at the results to see it needs massive change over there.
5. They have not, also I do not know the details of the payback other than an arrangement was structured, a poster on here sent me a PM with what appeared to be a well informed and detailed summary of the agreement.
6. My only view is I honestly believe we would have gone into administration loads on here think SAFC are to big a club for that, the fact Short bailed most of the debt, he did not clear ALL the hidden stuff.
7. yes SD CM and a few senior folks at the club read this. OH and PS the lad who posted SD's personal number on twitter should be named and shamed.
 
MADBOB THE MAKEM said:
I will try honestly
1, I can not and will not defend all their actions, they took on more than they could chew, they made errors in judgement on the manager and the scouting staff.
They did what they did with the best intentions, it's like a lot of business outside footy, it just did not go the way they wanted.
2. if the new guys don't happen, we have to hope FPP leave the balance of the loan/funding in place for team strengthening.(in fact we don't have another option) SD will not give the club to people who are less able to run the club than him.
3. IMHO if FPP leave the balance of the funds I think that's as good as it will get, please remember that's just IMHO.
4. Depends on the Cat of the AOL if we lose the cat 1 IMHO it will be a weight of our shoulders, just look at the results to see it needs massive change over there.
5. They have not, also I do not know the details of the payback other than an arrangement was structured, a poster on here sent me a PM with what appeared to be a well informed and detailed summary of the agreement.
6. My only view is I honestly believe we would have gone into administration loads on here think SAFC are to big a club for that, the fact Short bailed most of the debt, he did not clear ALL the hidden stuff.
7. yes SD CM and a few senior folks at the club read this. OH and PS the lad who posted SD's personal number on twitter should be named and shamed.
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Charlie is Kildare isn't he?
 
Confucius said:
You will only get what he’s being fed mate, he’s a Sunderland fan being used by these cretins to peddle their propaganda shite. Expect him to say things will change, just wait, give it time, cliches whilst giving you no confidence that these idiots are “fully committed” to selling as they promised, because they can’t make enough profit yet
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I actually felt kinda bad for him the other day when he was talking about his “mates” to be fair. Revealed a lot this episode and the amount they’ll rely on star struck fans and their loyalty.
 
MADBOB THE MAKEM said:
I will try honestly
1, I can not and will not defend all their actions, they took on more than they could chew, they made errors in judgement on the manager and the scouting staff.
They did what they did with the best intentions, it's like a lot of business outside footy, it just did not go the way they wanted.
2. if the new guys don't happen, we have to hope FPP leave the balance of the loan/funding in place for team strengthening.(in fact we don't have another option) SD will not give the club to people who are less able to run the club than him.
3. IMHO if FPP leave the balance of the funds I think that's as good as it will get, please remember that's just IMHO.
4. Depends on the Cat of the AOL if we lose the cat 1 IMHO it will be a weight of our shoulders, just look at the results to see it needs massive change over there.
5. They have not, also I do not know the details of the payback other than an arrangement was structured, a poster on here sent me a PM with what appeared to be a well informed and detailed summary of the agreement.
6. My only view is I honestly believe we would have gone into administration loads on here think SAFC are to big a club for that, the fact Short bailed most of the debt, he did not clear ALL the hidden stuff.
7. yes SD CM and a few senior folks at the club read this. OH and PS the lad who posted SD's personal number on twitter should be named and shamed.
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Stop just there. They gambled on going up and making a profit. They did neither...

Why do they want to FAIL, and yet still make a (large) profit?

We didn't go up. Why don't they sell the club for the £5m/10m that they paid, UP FRONT, for the club?

If i go to the bookies and put on a losing bet, i don't go back the next day to collect my winnings.
 
The Town Hall Clock said:
Stop just there. They gambled on going up and making a profit. They did neither...

Why do they want to FAIL, and yet still make a (large) profit?

We didn't go up. Why don't they sell the club for the £5m/10m that they paid, UP FRONT, for the club?

If i go to the bookies and put on a losing bet, i don't go back the next day to collect my winnings.
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That's the thing, they gambled OUR money and OUR future and still want a big profit from it
 
MADBOB THE MAKEM said:
I will try honestly
1, I can not and will not defend all their actions, they took on more than they could chew, they made errors in judgement on the manager and the scouting staff.
They did what they did with the best intentions, it's like a lot of business outside footy, it just did not go the way they wanted.
2. if the new guys don't happen, we have to hope FPP leave the balance of the loan/funding in place for team strengthening.(in fact we don't have another option) SD will not give the club to people who are less able to run the club than him.
3. IMHO if FPP leave the balance of the funds I think that's as good as it will get, please remember that's just IMHO.
4. Depends on the Cat of the AOL if we lose the cat 1 IMHO it will be a weight of our shoulders, just look at the results to see it needs massive change over there.
5. They have not, also I do not know the details of the payback other than an arrangement was structured, a poster on here sent me a PM with what appeared to be a well informed and detailed summary of the agreement.
6. My only view is I honestly believe we would have gone into administration loads on here think SAFC are to big a club for that, the fact Short bailed most of the debt, he did not clear ALL the hidden stuff.
7. yes SD CM and a few senior folks at the club read this. OH and PS the lad who posted SD's personal number on twitter should be named and shamed.
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Are we any closer to being sold?
 
MADBOB THE MAKEM said:
I will try honestly
1, I can not and will not defend all their actions, they took on more than they could chew, they made errors in judgement on the manager and the scouting staff.
They did what they did with the best intentions, it's like a lot of business outside footy, it just did not go the way they wanted.
2. if the new guys don't happen, we have to hope FPP leave the balance of the loan/funding in place for team strengthening.(in fact we don't have another option) SD will not give the club to people who are less able to run the club than him.
3. IMHO if FPP leave the balance of the funds I think that's as good as it will get, please remember that's just IMHO.
4. Depends on the Cat of the AOL if we lose the cat 1 IMHO it will be a weight of our shoulders, just look at the results to see it needs massive change over there.
5. They have not, also I do not know the details of the payback other than an arrangement was structured, a poster on here sent me a PM with what appeared to be a well informed and detailed summary of the agreement.
6. My only view is I honestly believe we would have gone into administration loads on here think SAFC are to big a club for that, the fact Short bailed most of the debt, he did not clear ALL the hidden stuff.
7. yes SD CM and a few senior folks at the club read this. OH and PS the lad who posted SD's personal number on twitter should be named and shamed.
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F@@k so i missed getting the c@@ts number. Gutted
 
lozza said:
Premier have gave the green light they have show proof of funds that is it mate , weather it's a day or a week it's happening very soon

Wouldnt waste your time pal he changes like the wind
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Look up the word imminent, it doesn't says days or weeks:lol:
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
No. I've seen Kildare posts with a time stamp the same as when I've been in the same place as Methven and him nowhere near his phone. Possibly one of his gophers, and most likely not even that.
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Canny pertinent that Kildare Partners is Ellis Short’s company, founded in 2013. Short is the Chief Opetating Officer of said company.
Ellis Short was (don’t know if he still is) a client of Dragon Advisory, the PR firm of Charlie Methven. The purchase of SAFC by Donald and CM allegedly originated due to the latters relationship with Short and interesting that despite having sold the club Short attended last seasons Wembley finals as a guest of SAFC.
What a web of intrigue.
 
MADBOB THE MAKEM said:
I will try honestly
1, I can not and will not defend all their actions, they took on more than they could chew, they made errors in judgement on the manager and the scouting staff.
They did what they did with the best intentions, it's like a lot of business outside footy, it just did not go the way they wanted.
2. if the new guys don't happen, we have to hope FPP leave the balance of the loan/funding in place for team strengthening.(in fact we don't have another option) SD will not give the club to people who are less able to run the club than him.
3. IMHO if FPP leave the balance of the funds I think that's as good as it will get, please remember that's just IMHO.
4. Depends on the Cat of the AOL if we lose the cat 1 IMHO it will be a weight of our shoulders, just look at the results to see it needs massive change over there.
5. They have not, also I do not know the details of the payback other than an arrangement was structured, a poster on here sent me a PM with what appeared to be a well informed and detailed summary of the agreement.
6. My only view is I honestly believe we would have gone into administration loads on here think SAFC are to big a club for that, the fact Short bailed most of the debt, he did not clear ALL the hidden stuff.
7. yes SD CM and a few senior folks at the club read this. OH and PS the lad who posted SD's personal number on twitter should be named and shamed.
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Thank you for your honest answers
 
The fact this “mad” Bob cannit even spell Mackem right. This whole “they mean well but it’s too big for them” is bollocks like. They tried to flip us and enjoy the ride. I mean well like but give me a couple million to run the club and I wouldn’t have a clue. Get them out. And also it’s truly, truly, truly, truly, truly, truly, pathetic if they read this and give it any consideration whatsoever.
 
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