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March to June 2020 - NEWCASTLE UTD fc

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Shieldsman said:
For you to openly admit you don’t know anything about Bin Salman suggests you’re oblivious to the wider world outside of Benwell/Byker/Cowgate/Fawdon (delete as applicable).
Morality is an area you’d be well advised to read into. It will serve you well in later life.
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I don't believe I did admit that I know nothing about Bin Salman you might have made that up. I may have said I don't know a great deal about him or something along those lines.
My over all knowledge of Middle Eastern affairs and current affairs in general is probably well above average and I would hazard a guess that before the potential take over of Newcastle the bloke probably wasn't on your radar.
Your knowledge of him i suspect is what you have found while frantically googling him these last couple of weeks.

I don't live in any of the areas you mention but i have to say I find that your assumption that people from poorer areas lack morality say much about your character.
 
AndyH said:
Any particular field you feel I need to educate myself more in?
If you feel that Saudi Arabia should be blocked from investing in UK and Western business might I suggest you lobby the UK government who are actively trying to promote and increase business. They are after all your elected representatives and are much better placed to change the world than Newcastle fans.

I have taken the liberty to draft a letter for you, feel free to copy and paste it.

Dear Boris

I don't like the views and practices of Saudi Arabia.
Please stop them from investing in western business, especially Newcastle United as i really don't like them.
I am very very outraged about the whole thing.

Kind Regards
A disgruntled Sunderland fan

Not wanting to split hairs but Arabsat is not trying to purchase Newcastle, The Saudi PIF is. The PIF doesn't own Arabsat the Arab League does
This whole piracy thing is the government of Qatar jousting with the Saudi government and if little relevance to any potential deal.
This deal may well fall through, nobody is more skeptical it will happen than Newcastle fans. From a personal point of view I will believe it when and if it happens but it won't fall through because Qatar doesn't like Saudi Arabia at the moment.
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From a purely objective point of view, gleefully jumping to the defence of Saudi Arabia and seemingly showing a giddy willingness to overlook the reprehensible ethics and practices which are well known to go on in that nation, just because one of their royal family has shown an interest in buying your football club makes you look like a total shitkicker with extreme tunnel vision.
 
AndyH said:
I don't believe I did admit that I know nothing about Bin Salman you might have made that up. I may have said I don't know a great deal about him or something along those lines.
My over all knowledge of Middle Eastern affairs and current affairs in general is probably well above average and I would hazard a guess that before the potential take over of Newcastle the bloke probably wasn't on your radar.
Your knowledge of him i suspect is what you have found while frantically googling him these last couple of weeks.

I don't live in any of the areas you mention but i have to say I find that your assumption that people from poorer areas lack morality say much about your character.
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So you have well above average knowledge of middle eastern affairs and yet no little about the man who runs the whole lot??

another f***ing moron who's just reappeared after a 2 year absence.
 
safc_grindon said:
They aren't in it to make money. Staveley will come out of this rich - that's her goal - but the Saudis are in it for different reasons.
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Maybe so. But in this current climate, they could hang on a few months and see who else becomes available. I suspect after Covid is done there will be a lot of clubs whos owners will sell, potentially at a rock bottom price.

I also dont buy that they arent in it to make money. I thought it was an "Investment fund". Which surely will want a return... but im no expert.
 
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The Premier League and its 20 clubs have received a letter from broadcaster beIN Sport urging them to block the sale of Newcastle to a Saudi-backed consortium.
 
The Saudi Investment Fund has a history of diversifying Saudi Investment. Quite clear that they're looking away from oil. They've invested in banks, dams, technology funds etc.

This isn't Saudi Arabia as such but their fund to increase global investment & influence. They'll be looking for a pragmatic place to park an agreed amount & leave it there. From their point of view increasing on overall value but also allowing them to trumpet the fact there's a virtual Saudi flag somewhere.
 
Redandwhitedust said:
Maybe so. But in this current climate, they could hang on a few months and see who else becomes available. I suspect after Covid is done there will be a lot of clubs whos owners will sell, potentially at a rock bottom price.

I also dont buy that they arent in it to make money. I thought it was an "Investment fund". Which surely will want a return... but im no expert.
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Nope. It's all about image. MBS owns a $300m chateau in France, a $500m yacht, a $450m da Vinci painting - that's just him, personally. Trust me, money isn't the driver here.

Saudi is in the midst of turning itself into a new tourist hub - visas on arrival for the first time, billion dollar entertainment areas planned - it wants tourism to contribute 10% of GDP. Why? They are trying to create the narrative for companies to invest in the country on the pretext that the country is reforming. And tourism - and the takeover - are all part of that narrative.
 
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Be interesting to see what happens with this one, if it was Man United, Liverpool or any of the other biggest clubs it almost certainly wouldn't be blocked or have all this negative publicity , however with it being Newcastle and people not liking the idea of them being the richest club in the world and being able to compete financially with the rest it may well be blocked.
 
Born Never Asked said:
Be interesting to see what happens with this one, if it was Man United, Liverpool or any of the other biggest clubs it almost certainly wouldn't be blocked or have all this negative publicity , however with it being Newcastle and people not liking the idea of them being the richest club in the world and being able to compete financially with the rest it may well be blocked.
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That's just not true. There's no vendetta against NUFC becoming rich in the slightest.
 
Born Never Asked said:
Be interesting to see what happens with this one, if it was Man United, Liverpool or any of the other biggest clubs it almost certainly wouldn't be blocked or have all this negative publicity , however with it being Newcastle and people not liking the idea of them being the richest club in the world and being able to compete financially with the rest it may well be blocked.
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If it is blocked then in fairness they should force the sale of sheff utd. Same people.
 
AndyH said:
I don't believe I did admit that I know nothing about Bin Salman you might have made that up. I may have said I don't know a great deal about him or something along those lines.
My over all knowledge of Middle Eastern affairs and current affairs in general is probably well above average and I would hazard a guess that before the potential take over of Newcastle the bloke probably wasn't on your radar.
Your knowledge of him i suspect is what you have found while frantically googling him these last couple of weeks.

I don't live in any of the areas you mention but i have to say I find that your assumption that people from poorer areas lack morality say much about your character.
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Far from it. I take a very active interest in world current affairs.

Your comment about poorer areas / morality is ridiculous. I mentioned areas that are your typical mag heartlands. Would you have been happier if I mentioned more areas to include some with less deprivation? Just for you I'll throw Gosforth and Jesmond in.
Regardless of where they are from, NUFC fans have suddenly lost any concept of morality. They are so desperate to get rid of a bloke who employs people on zero hours contracts and uses the club as an advertising avenue for his business to be replaced by pretty much the biggest bastard on the planet who allegedly sanctions killings, removes free speech, infringes human rights and involves his country with proxy wars all over the Arab world. Do you see why this can be construed to be ironic?

If you didn't know a great deal about him before this then what did you know? That's he's from Saudi and very wealthy, the end?
 
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Born Never Asked said:
I didnt even know Sheff United has Saudi owners until people started mentioning it in correlation with Newcastle , shows how little publicity it must have gained when the Saudis took them over.
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But now it has i think Nufc would (rightly) say that if they're not f&p to own NUFC then they aren't for SUFC.
 
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