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March to June 2020 - NEWCASTLE UTD fc

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Nukehasslefan said:
I absolutely loved the John Hall era and also loved Keegan as manager, at the time.
He took a massive gamble in trying to take the club on a magical tour towards the top and potential cups.
He basically mortgaged the club to the hilt in a bid to make it par for the course.

He very nearly succeeded but it needed an ingredient to keep it going that was not easily got and that was running the club outside of the north east, because the north east has been looked at as the low class region for long enough.

If Hall had done this same thing with Newcastle somewhere down south.....say he could pick up the city and plant it far south, he would've made it even on the back of the also ran attempts we did have at that time.

He saw a chance to put the club on the map and to make an absolute fortune on the back of it but as soon as the fairytale started to turn into a horror story he bailed out.

It's a good job Hall sold to someone like Ashley because, if he'd sold it to some consortium chancers we'd potentially be playing our football in league two.
Luckily Ashley took the debt on the chin and the club is still a premier league club as it stands. For that I think Ashley deserves massive thanks rather than the absolute crucifixion he's been afforded all because he made the mistake of incurring the wrath and pet lip of a one time messiah that was loved by me and still appreciated for his stints as player and manager back then but went right down in my estimation once he tried to sue the club for a massive amount of money.
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That’s all well and good for Newcastle, but where was it beneficial for Durham which is very much in the north east, taking Durham Wasps away?
Also, if he was such a “spiffing chap”, didn’t he sell to Ashley when Freddie Shepherd was on his sick bed and allegedly behind his back to a certain degree?
 
Father Jack Hackett said:
I wonder what the views are of that nugget from Ouston who does their fanzine? Isn't he a right-on Ben Eltonesque Socialist?
He was always very principled when it came to anything SAFC related, anyway.
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Durham mag who tries ingrate himself with everything to do with Newcastle?

Mustn't post anything else......................
Father Jack Hackett said:
I've never known such an insecure set of people. They constantly need reassurance from someone, anyone to tell them how great they, their club and/or their town is.
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Even cloud Bobby, the hockle free version.
 
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Holden said:
When it comes to unwinnable arguments such as club sizes, etc... I always find history to be a good thing to go by.

And the mags have NEVER, not in a hundred years, been a club as big as Liverpool, Man Utd etc...

Why can't they just accept themselves for what they are, a biggish team but never the biggest, just like us
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A mag and the truth :lol: , haway man have you seen the decades of bullshit from them .
 
Nukehasslefan said:
I absolutely loved the John Hall era and also loved Keegan as manager, at the time.
He took a massive gamble in trying to take the club on a magical tour towards the top and potential cups.
He basically mortgaged the club to the hilt in a bid to make it par for the course.

He very nearly succeeded but it needed an ingredient to keep it going that was not easily got and that was running the club outside of the north east, because the north east has been looked at as the low class region for long enough.

If Hall had done this same thing with Newcastle somewhere down south.....say he could pick up the city and plant it far south, he would've made it even on the back of the also ran attempts we did have at that time.

He saw a chance to put the club on the map and to make an absolute fortune on the back of it but as soon as the fairytale started to turn into a horror story he bailed out.

It's a good job Hall sold to someone like Ashley because, if he'd sold it to some consortium chancers we'd potentially be playing our football in league two.
Luckily Ashley took the debt on the chin and the club is still a premier league club as it stands. For that I think Ashley deserves massive thanks rather than the absolute crucifixion he's been afforded all because he made the mistake of incurring the wrath and pet lip of a one time messiah that was loved by me and still appreciated for his stints as player and manager back then but went right down in my estimation once he tried to sue the club for a massive amount of money.
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Spot on
 
BiereSpeciale said:
One for the older generation... Did the influence of Sir John Hall and his PR give people who grew up supporting Newcastle United in the mid-late 90s a false impression that we are not as big as we think we are?
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No doubt we lost a lot of young fans from the north east to the Hall/Keegan era which has never been redressed. Even had a significant amount walking around Sunderland with scum tops on. They gained a lot of fans around the country at the time too, a lot who still go to games
 
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