A criminal case where you think the guilty person is innocent.

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Do you not think that's why the judge gave a suspended sentence rather than a custodial one - maybe he thought the case wasn't sufficiently proven but had to go with the jury's verdict?

Yeah I said same. You’d never get A suspended sentence for a million quid theft ever. Judge knew the prosecution had insufficient evidence so was as lenient as he could be.
 


Not criminal but there is this case of a fella accused of murdering his ex-wife (Nicole Brown). He was found innocent in a full criminal trial in front of the LA superior court but then the family of the victim (one of them anyway) were able to sue the ex in a civil court where all the witnesses couldn't be called. He was found culpable then despite the criminal court ruling. Mental.
 
Yeah I said same. You’d never get A suspended sentence for a million quid theft ever. Judge knew the prosecution had insufficient evidence so was as lenient as he could be.
They didn’t actually get the money though did they? They were suspected while filming was still going on and the producers were told before the show finished, that didn’t come over much in the thing the other night.
Not criminal but there is this case of a fella accused of murdering his ex-wife (Nicole Brown). He was found innocent in a full criminal trial in front of the LA superior court but then the family of the victim (one of them anyway) were able to sue the ex in a civil court where all the witnesses couldn't be called. He was found culpable then despite the criminal court ruling. Mental.
The burden of proof is lower in civil cases. And he was guilty as sin anyway.
 
They didn’t actually get the money though did they? They were suspected while filming was still going on and the producers were told before the show finished, that didn’t come over much in the thing the other night.

Think they were presented with cheque but production company cancelled it before it could be cashed.
 
Not criminal but there is this case of a fella accused of murdering his ex-wife (Nicole Brown). He was found innocent in a full criminal trial in front of the LA superior court but then the family of the victim (one of them anyway) were able to sue the ex in a civil court where all the witnesses couldn't be called. He was found culpable then despite the criminal court ruling. Mental.
If it wasn't OJ it was a bloke called Glen Rogers - a nasty Serial Killer that was knocking about in that area at the time (and may have had contact / done jobs for Nicole).
 
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Not criminal but there is this case of a fella accused of murdering his ex-wife (Nicole Brown). He was found innocent in a full criminal trial in front of the LA superior court but then the family of the victim (one of them anyway) were able to sue the ex in a civil court where all the witnesses couldn't be called. He was found culpable then despite the criminal court ruling. Mental.
The story is that the cops immediately decided to frame him by planting the glove, blood stains etc at his house. One of the most famous people in the US, who, if innocent and not at home, would very likely have had an absolute cast iron alibi corroborated by somebody who would have seen him. But still they decided to risk doing it. And then, what do you know, the only time OJ doesn't have an alibi is the hour or so around the time of the murder.

The defence managed to inject enough confusion into the case with glove stunts and racism accusations that the already incompetent prosecution case fell apart. The lead prosecutor gave up the law 2 years later. If she couldn't manage to convince a jury of that case what hope was there?
 
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The story is that the cops immediately decided to frame him by planting the glove, blood stains etc at his house. One of the most famous people in the US, who, if innocent and not at home, would very likely have had an absolute cast iron alibi corroborated by somebody who would have seen him. But still they decided to risk doing it. And then, what do you know, the only time OJ doesn't have an alibi is the hour or so around the time of the murder.

The defence managed to inject enough confusion into the case with glove stunts and racism accusations that the already incompetent prosecution case fell apart. The lead prosecutor gave up the law 2 years later. If she couldn't manage to convince a jury of that case what hope was there?

In fairness I was at the very best playing off the thread title of "criminal case". OJ did it and while people point to accusations of racism and stunts the trial was won and lost at what is now in US law recognised as the main factor in justice - the jury selection. Seriously. It took two months to whittle a 250 person pool down. While people were deselected for a lot of reasons when you look at it the defence had only one goal - find 12 people that would never trust dry scientific analysis of this new-fangled DNA evidence stuff. The prosecution had a trail going from the lasses house, through OJs jeep, back to his house back to the glove. All his blood. The defence just had to find 12 people who were "sick of being told what to think by academics" and they did.
 

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