Sam Allardyce wants return to management with Sunderland as mega-bucks US consortium eye takeover

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Titus said:
He got offered the England job whilst managing Sunderland. I don't think taking that really eqautes to a shafting unless you look at it with heavy red tinted bias.

The reason I mention Moyes and Short is because there's a sense of extra bitterness towards Allardyce due to how shit we were the next season. Had Moyes done alright, I doubt people would've said BSA had shafted us, infact I think they'd be saying he shafted himself.
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BSA did brilliantly while he was our manager but this is how he operates.

He gets them playing well in the short term then leaves before the jig's up.

When he chooses to stick about he has them playing dour football Jack Ross would be proud of.

When he's done he leaves his latest club with a hefty rebuild job. We were still clearing up the fallout last year dealing with those daft Africans.
 
ilovehorswill said:
BSA did brilliantly while he was our manager but this is how he operates.

He gets them playing well in the short term then leaves before the jig's up.

When he chooses to stick about he has them playing dour football Jack Ross would be proud of.

When he's done he leaves his latest club with a hefty rebuild job. We were still clearing up the fallout last year dealing with those daft Africans.
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You mean Kone. It was Moyes who bought Dodgybody and the other twat

EDIT: and spent over 20 million on the pair of them.Some rebuilding work there
 
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ilovehorswill said:
BSA did brilliantly while he was our manager but this is how he operates.

He gets them playing well in the short term then leaves before the jig's up.

When he chooses to stick about he has them playing dour football Jack Ross would be proud of.

When he's done he leaves his latest club with a hefty rebuild job. We were still clearing up the fallout last year dealing with those daft Africans.
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He got offered the England job, though. Its not like he left because he thought he was going to be found out. Any 60 year old English manager at a club they have no real affinity with would do the same.

All my point is, is that people look back on him leaving as a shafting more due to how shit we went on to be. Had we still been in the PL he would've been getting rinsed for other reasons IMO.

Also, which Africans?
 
johnathanSAFC said:
Wouldn't have him back look at the majority of his previous clubs including us every player he signs are just money grabers who dont care for the club and every club he manages always gets relegated when we leaves
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Palace and Everton appear to be still in the Premier League.
 
He'd be a poor appointment and very short-sighted. I'm not sure where this assumption that he'd get you promoted to the Premier League with ease comes from either.

The Championship is way more competitive than it was even a few years ago. There are a lot of good manages plying their trade there now and Allardyce stand out that much amongst them.

That's without bringing his highly questionable morals and ethics into it. He pissed off at half time in one of your friendlies as he couldn't even wait until the end of the game to leave you in the lurch, the clamour for him to come back from some considering he did that to your club is crackers.
 
One thing fattybumbum would certainly do is either get wyke and grigg scoring or bin them off and get some goal scorers in asap
 
Keith S30S said:
Mate's players? Sorry that's total crap. Mind many others are talking rubbish too.

Sam kept us up by signing 4 fairly unknown players. They came in and made us a far better team. Where they came from was pretty much immaterial but I just posted the actual truth earlier.

'In the January, when Sam bought 3 players and another on loan only 1 (Kone) had Mackay as his agent.'

Sam ultimately did a great job. He didn't do it for free, nobody in football does. All managers and players have agents who get the best deals for their clients.

However, compare him to Moyes who happily took £50K a week for abject failure.

Sam was a great fit at our club. He made us into a very professional outfit who were very hard to beat. He would walk this league and the Championship with the right backing simply because he'd be the best manager in both leagues.
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He’s had a dodgy reputation with agents at every club he’s been at and then with his supposed dream job with England he blew it again by chasing the money. I agree he’s a good fit in one sense but at what cost?
Sima said:
He'd be a poor appointment and very short-sighted. I'm not sure where this assumption that he'd get you promoted to the Premier League with ease comes from either.

The Championship is way more competitive than it was even a few years ago. There are a lot of good manages plying their trade there now and Allardyce stand out that much amongst them.

That's without bringing his highly questionable morals and ethics into it. He pissed off at half time in one of your friendlies as he couldn't even wait until the end of the game to leave you in the lurch, the clamour for him to come back from some considering he did that to your club is crackers.
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Irony alert
 
Sima said:
He'd be a poor appointment and very short-sighted. I'm not sure where this assumption that he'd get you promoted to the Premier League with ease comes from either.

The Championship is way more competitive than it was even a few years ago. There are a lot of good manages plying their trade there now and Allardyce stand out that much amongst them.

That's without bringing his highly questionable morals and ethics into it. He pissed off at half time in one of your friendlies as he couldn't even wait until the end of the game to leave you in the lurch, the clamour for him to come back from some considering he did that to your club is crackers.
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Bruce in
 
He'd get us playing good football in the championship mind.

I do want to stick with Ross though, feel like he's building something long term here.
 
concert party said:
Apart from moral compass he's getting on and is very much old school.

We have a young vibrant manager and if he's not what the new owners want then we find another one. But not him or Rednkapp. Personally I don't understand the love ins for those two.
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Can you explain please what is vibrant about f***ing Jack Ross ? :lol:
xmfd said:
He'd get us playing good football in the championship mind.

I do want to stick with Ross though, feel like he's building something long term here.
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Not for me. He’s yesterday’s man and a dodgy bastard.
19FTM73 said:
I hope Ross stays as long as he keeps us going forward. 2 points off top at this stage of the season is fine....he will have targets, and as long as he stays on track, we should keep him.
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I m not a fan of the bloke. However I can’t disagree.
 
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