4th Ashes Test - Old Trafford

[Onlyfoolsrushin]

Bowlers are quality too.

I think our bowlers are on a par, personally. Smith is the difference.

 

[rentaghost]

Paine is an Ashes winning captain

He will be thrown under the bus the next tough series and Smith will get the job back and will be seen as some big redemption.

Australia's quality seem bowling and Smith was the difference

Fair play to him. He was brought in as he is an experienced player and decent bloke at a time where repairing their image was paramount.

 

[Mainze]

Their bowling attack is brilliant

Strength in depth too.

 

[Deleted member 36123]

So much to learn from top to bottom - going into an Ashes series straight after a World Cup with no real time for rest or red ball cricket practice.

Meanwhile, we allow the Aussies to come over and play county cricket and adapt to the conditions.

Root and branch changes needed I think.

 

[TheRey]

Oh, and massively fuck Trevor Bayliss, too.

 

[hudson88]

Stokes and Broad are the only ones to have performed at a decent level.

Those 2 are the only ones to come away from this series with any credit.

Might be harsh on Burns and Leach but balls to the rest

 

[BOYCEY]

Stokes and Broad are the only ones to have performed at a decent level.

Think Jofra has had a very good test series so far, considering his inexperience.

 

[Deleted member 36123]

Strength in depth too.

The key difference imo.

 

[Jack Torrance]

Strength in depth too.

Yep, think they've been managed very well

 

[SAFC11]

Not often a nation loses a series on home soil. Theuve played our conditions better than us... and we wont win in australia as we are even worse there and none of out lineup can play a short ball

 

[Steak Pie]

Such a shame. Big effort today from the tail, but ultimately the batsmen have cost us the Ashes.

Already in a taxi, couldn't face the replacement bus.

 

[rentaghost]

Other than Smith and Labuschange their batsmen have been as bad as ours

Is that a serious post? Take out Cummins and Hazlewood and their bowling hasn’t been much better either

 

[hudson88]

So much to learn from top to bottom - going into an Ashes series straight after a World Cup with no real time for rest or red ball cricket practice.

Meanwhile, we allow the Aussies to come over and play county cricket and adapt to the conditions.

Root and branch changes needed I think.

They played 2/3 warm up games and then another game between the last test and this one.

Meanwhile next summer our team will warm up by playing 16.4 over cricket

 

[Mainze]

Not often a nation loses a series on home soil. Theuve played our conditions better than us... and we wont win in australia as we are even worse there and none of out lineup can play a short ball

We haven’t lost yet.

 

[Jap Stammer]

The problem is highlighted right there, they are better than our top order.

Tbf, our openers are better than theirs - not that the bar was set very high mind.

 

[The Rat]

Oh, and massively fuck Trevor Bayliss, too.

Aye only won a World Cup like

1 home
Defeat in his whole 4 years

 

[Scotty 1978]

Strength in depth too.

Look at the way they’ve been able to rotate them throughout the series

 

[NorthCountryBoy]

England have shown balls in our last 3 innings.

Smith the difference.

 

[GordonMuchallNo1Fan]

So much to learn from top to bottom - going into an Ashes series straight after a World Cup with no real time for rest or red ball cricket practice.

Meanwhile, we allow the Aussies to come over and play county cricket and adapt to the conditions.

Root and branch changes needed I think.

ECB aren't interested in giving players red ball practice. An issue for many years.

 

[SAFC11]

We haven’t lost yet.

No, but based on performances through the series im going out on a limb