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Tadger said:
I kind of get the logic behind that way of thinking, but you can’t really compare firearms to any other readily available commodity. I dare say if I lived in America I would own guns as I find them interesting, but I come from a different culture and don’t have that same affinity that the yanks seem to have.

Cars kill, drugs kill. tools kill etc but they all have practical applications that are the main reason they’re made. Guns have two uses; killing and target shooting.
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Also, to own or use a car in the US you need to learn how to do so in supervised conditions, and pass a test demonstrating competence, safety awareness and that you are willing and able to abide by the rules for using it. You are then issued with a license which puts your details on a database, and which can be taken off you preventing you from using it if you break the rules with sufficient seriousness. Certain medical conditions and aspects of your personal history can stop you getting a license. You are prevented from having or certainly using powerful and dangerous military versions of the civilian equipment you are licensed to own and use. Law enforcement and other authorities are allowed to stop you as you go about your business and check whether you are complying with the rules around using it. And that’s something that most people need to use on a daily basis for in order to work and live your daily life, and yet that’s acceptable and doesn’t impinge on people’s practical freedoms. But somehow that’s not acceptable for firearms
 


Panhead said:
So President C**t has come out and said we must sort immigration legislation out. Something great can come out of these events.

Am I missing the fact both shooters were American. He's whipping the gun toting morons into a frenzy.

I'm staggered by that man.


Fuck me, you need to cut the dose fella
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stronger background checks and immigration reform. aye because these bloke would have definitely been classed as unfit before buying the guns, or stopped coming into the country, or their dad didnt have any guns in the house.
 
Cockney Mackem said:
Also, to own or use a car in the US you need to learn how to do so in supervised conditions, and pass a test demonstrating competence, safety awareness and that you are willing and able to abide by the rules for using it. You are then issued with a license which puts your details on a database, and which can be taken off you preventing you from using it if you break the rules with sufficient seriousness. Certain medical conditions and aspects of your personal history can stop you getting a license. You are prevented from having or certainly using powerful and dangerous military versions of the civilian equipment you are licensed to own and use. Law enforcement and other authorities are allowed to stop you as you go about your business and check whether you are complying with the rules around using it. And that’s something that most people need to use on a daily basis for in order to work and live your daily life, and yet that’s acceptable and doesn’t impinge on people’s practical freedoms. But somehow that’s not acceptable for firearms
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Stop talking sense man.

I think USA is far to gone to ban all guns. But they could easily bring some regulation into it, which of course they won’t.
 
Cockney Mackem said:
Also, to own or use a car in the US you need to learn how to do so in supervised conditions, and pass a test demonstrating competence, safety awareness and that you are willing and able to abide by the rules for using it. You are then issued with a license which puts your details on a database, and which can be taken off you preventing you from using it if you break the rules with sufficient seriousness. Certain medical conditions and aspects of your personal history can stop you getting a license. You are prevented from having or certainly using powerful and dangerous military versions of the civilian equipment you are licensed to own and use. Law enforcement and other authorities are allowed to stop you as you go about your business and check whether you are complying with the rules around using it. And that’s something that most people need to use on a daily basis for in order to work and live your daily life, and yet that’s acceptable and doesn’t impinge on people’s practical freedoms. But somehow that’s not acceptable for firearms
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Cracking post. Edit. If its yours.
 
DJ Doubt said:
Sorry if SEB but there was third shooting yesterday that doesn't seem to be getting the same level of media coverage


7 Wounded In Douglas Park Shooting

'Only' 5 people though so I guess no one cares.
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That is Chicago, it will gang related. No does care. This is probably a bigger issue than a few white blokes going postal but US citizens don't care, I certainly won't lose any sleep.
Kent_Mackem said:
It’s desperately sad. The country is obsessed with guns and the gunslingers communities are incredibly powerful. Restricting firearms (which would be the sensible option - even if it needs the constitution changing) is a vote loser. Trump will never do it. Even Obama struggled to get it passed.
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It was hardly going to make a blind bit of difference if he had.
 
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"Police say the rifle was ordered online from Texas and there was nothing in the gunman's history that would have stopped him from buying the gun legally." So other than stopping him buying the gun at all, how do you stop it? no matter what checks you put in place, people are going to buy guns and at some point in the future "snap".
 
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