The Snowman
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FIRST ASHES TEST: Edgbaston
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smoker
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imagine its a one day match and the batting side made an impressive 390 but instead of having 50 overs to chase it you have 90 odd...there you go job done
Except the ball moves about a lot more and no field restrictions.
rentaghost
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Our batsmen have their strengths but very few play with soft hands. Roy, Buttler, Bairstow in particular. It was a struggle watching Roy. These players in particular are going to need to find a way.
The Snowman
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or wides and bouncers allowed yeah was kinda tongue in cheek mate
I can’t see Roy making it to midday in truth.
or wides and bouncers allowed yeah was kinda tongue in cheek mate
Sarcasm and humour has never been his strong point marra, don’t worry.
The Breen Machine
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Can we all now agree that I was right to suggest dropping Moeen? 
Steak Pie
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If you cant do it with your hands, do it with your feet. Get moving, get outside the line.
They batted a full day in the first innings mate
The Snowman
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different pressure though
youre goin to have fielders around the bat all day
sonson
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England batted out a draw in the first innings? Someone should tell the players and match officials
The Snowman
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positive our best chance, try hit lyon out of the attack, if hes allowed to bowl all day we are toast
rentaghost
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Yep its a proper test for them. Just got to work out their own method and stay in.
That’s not what you said.
You said
So it was 2009 the last time England batted out a draw at home. Not only that but it’s the only time in the past decade England have batted out for a full day.
Steak Pie
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And we have a significant problem in that 3 of the top 4 are still to find their groove. We'll see, might be the making if them.
The Snowman
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yeah but first innngs wasnt ''batting out'' it was forcing the pace
sonson
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In a post and broader discussion about drawing tests specifically, I think the context was pretty obvious. Not to mention that the phrase batting out is basically never used except in reference to surviving a match. Certainly not in respect to posting a total to chase when in a position to win a match as was the case in day 2. But yes I forgot to add “for a draw” in there, unlike in the previous paragraph and posts in general around today’s play in which England need to bat out for a draw.
Mind you it’s not like batting for a full day hasn’t represented an achievement as of itself for this team over the past few years like.
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No rain today so a defensive batting performance needed by players who like to attack. Going to be interesting.
sonson
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More grim reading re England’s batting:
Have lost all their wickets in one session (not innings) 4 times since 2016. Prior to 20-6 it happened once in 78 years.
Only 3 players in squad have first class average average of 40 vs 7 players in 2013
Had 18 different openers since 2012
Note I obviously will be delighted if England manage it but I can’t get my head round people saying it’s probable at all given the actual evidence available around how this team play in pressure conditions, or even in good ones
Have lost all their wickets in one session (not innings) 4 times since 2016. Prior to 20-6 it happened once in 78 years.
Only 3 players in squad have first class average average of 40 vs 7 players in 2013
Had 18 different openers since 2012
Note I obviously will be delighted if England manage it but I can’t get my head round people saying it’s probable at all given the actual evidence available around how this team play in pressure conditions, or even in good ones
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Bri
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TB can play two way. If the overhead conditions are right it will swing lots (as against Aussies when Broad and Stokes took a quick hatful) otherwise it's flat as it was against India a few years back and the commentators were bemoaning a boringly flat deck.
Fair enough. The fact remains that they managed to bat a full day in this Test. Which is very much an achievement given what we’ve produced in recent memory. Hopefully we manage it again.
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