Roker Rapport Podcast: With Stewart Donald (Tues 28th May)

[sick]

Do you really want the manager to go into all the details about formations and tactics on a fan podcast which is available for everyone to hear?

It's not going to happen. As SD said in the podcast, he doesn't believe it was JR's intention to be defensive and sit back but instead perhaps be related to a mentality problem of the players.

Yes, he doesn't have to tell any secrets.

I don't think it's a tactic to sit back but he could explain why he thinks it happens and what he's going to do about it.

Similarly, he could explain his take on why we create nowt, if he thinks we need a different kind of player, what kind would that be etc.

 

[Guinness Guzzler]

Great podcast, the interviewer was really good and I thought both Donald and Methven were impressive.

The main thing I'm taking away from it, and that I'll happily refer back to next season, is that both have agreed unequivocally, that automatic promotion is expected and that the excuses regarding the issues of the past have to stop now. That's brilliant to hear and it's absolutely clear. I'd lose no sleep if Ross went, but Donald obviously wants to back him; that's absolutely fine by me especially with that target being so clear. Ross will need to get us attacking more and getting more ruthless because he'll be under no illusions, even play offs won't be acceptable and you generally can't get automatic promotion with too many draws. Just hope recruitment is right and he can deliver

 

[skullmeister]

I thought the podcast was excellent, good questioning (although the Will Grigg & player performance stuff needs to be aimed at JR) an acknowledgement of a need to change & that auto promotion is the only option next season. An explanation albeit long winded on the finances & current thinking - I know it won’t be good to everyone & doesn’t hide from the fact we’ve failed on the pitch this season but it shows that Short sold to people wanting to make both solvent & competitive again

I agree re the Lyle Taylor assessment, definitely something in that

I read these direct quotes from Lyle Taylor from an earlier interview. In my opinion he never wanted to move North and by speaking to us he might have got a few more quid out of Charlton:

’Im already settled. I’m home. This is home for me. Then I don’t have to worry about the move, not being around my family – which for me is a big thing – and it’s the familiarity of being born in Greenwich, raised in New Cross and being 15 minutes from the doorstep of the house I was brought up in".

 

[oddbod]

It would be interesting if rr displayed the questions that were sent in so we can observe their editorial process in action and challenge them on it if they have avoided some of the harder questions.

 

[sick]

Good podcast. Plenty positives. Good tough questions. As always just not enough time to get answers to every question.
Not enough was asked as to what Juans role is and what he brings.
Also no mention of things like the shirt deal, naming rights to stadium etc. I appreciate at the minute they are minor only 2 days after the play offs but you might not get there back for a month or two.

Did he not say that wouldn't be happening this year ?

 

[oddbod]

I read these direct quotes from Lyle Taylor from an earlier interview. In my opinion he never wanted to move North and by speaking to us he might have got a few more quid out of Charlton:

’Im already settled. I’m home. This is home for me. Then I don’t have to worry about the move, not being around my family – which for me is a big thing – and it’s the familiarity of being born in Greenwich, raised in New Cross and being 15 minutes from the doorstep of the house I was brought up in".

There is a later quote while acknowledging the above(remember he said this after he joined charlton)but stating he was willing to move ,liked the club ross and the infrastructure...did not like the senior staff doing the deal thought they were unprofessional and unused to profesional league etiquette ...basically he was saying they were cheapscates!and he chose less money at charlton!I am surprised don has not come out to counter thrse claims but i guess one persons cheapskate is another person playing hardball........

 

[West_Winger]

I read these direct quotes from Lyle Taylor from an earlier interview. In my opinion he never wanted to move North and by speaking to us he might have got a few more quid out of Charlton:

’Im already settled. I’m home. This is home for me. Then I don’t have to worry about the move, not being around my family – which for me is a big thing – and it’s the familiarity of being born in Greenwich, raised in New Cross and being 15 minutes from the doorstep of the house I was brought up in".

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“I went up to Sunderland and met the manager, I saw the facilities and it’s a hell of a club and Jack Ross is a hell of a manager as has been demonstrated this season.”

"But there were things said and done by those above the manager. That ended up why I didn’t go there and that’s why I play for Charlton and not Sunderland.”

"At Charlton, the club were clear with everything. It was like, ‘This is what we’re going to do, this is what we want and this is what you want. Here’s the deal, if you like it, sign it. If you don’t, don’t sign it.’

"But, at Sunderland, it was wishy washy. We asked them for something while negotiating the contract and they said, ‘We can’t really give you that because if you don’t do that, are you going to pay us money back?’

"It was almost like, ‘Hang on, I know you’ve been involved in non-league football at Eastleigh before but this is not how professional football works.”

 

[steve30000]

Really wanted to hear about Sartori and what his role / contribution / interest is likely to be going forward.

That's gone quiet.

 

[MLE1]

I read these direct quotes from Lyle Taylor from an earlier interview. In my opinion he never wanted to move North and by speaking to us he might have got a few more quid out of Charlton:

’Im already settled. I’m home. This is home for me. Then I don’t have to worry about the move, not being around my family – which for me is a big thing – and it’s the familiarity of being born in Greenwich, raised in New Cross and being 15 minutes from the doorstep of the house I was brought up in".

I think that what SD alluded to but also he hesitated in giving a straight answer to suggest an element of truth in the quotes from LT. At the end of the day he didn’t come & if he had he may not have been as successful as he has been at CAFC as his heart wouldn’t have been in it

 

[T_Bone]

Well recently hasn’t Taylor been shouting his mouth off about how much he wanted to,play for Lee Bowyer ?
I understood that this was the reason he signed for Charlton.

 

[Jasper]

A good podcast. Donald and Methven stood up to some difficult questions and convincingly put straight some of the criticisms I and others have had. Happy to now forgot the pain of Sunday, and I’ll be getting behind them and Ross from now on. Our preparations this summer for next season are massive and we need to make them as smooth as possible.

 

[deleted user 785]

Bally’s been about all season to be fair

And doing exactly what? What's his role?

 

[gowlcra]

I agree re the Lyle Taylor assessment, definitely something in that[/QUOTE]

He’s probably gutted as he could have had Taylor on a free had they presented a better proposal instead we’ve signed Grigg and Wyke for punchy numbers

 

[skullmeister]

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“I went up to Sunderland and met the manager, I saw the facilities and it’s a hell of a club and Jack Ross is a hell of a manager as has been demonstrated this season.”

"But there were things said and done by those above the manager. That ended up why I didn’t go there and that’s why I play for Charlton and not Sunderland.”

"At Charlton, the club were clear with everything. It was like, ‘This is what we’re going to do, this is what we want and this is what you want. Here’s the deal, if you like it, sign it. If you don’t, don’t sign it.’

"But, at Sunderland, it was wishy washy. We asked them for something while negotiating the contract and they said, ‘We can’t really give you that because if you don’t do that, are you going to pay us money back?’

"It was almost like, ‘Hang on, I know you’ve been involved in non-league football at Eastleigh before but this is not how professional football works.”

That's about the 3rd account he gave of why he didn't sign.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Brilliant podcast and I urge everyone to listen to it. Of course, the usual negative twats will moan, but both Charlie and Donald were very open.

We have a big summer ahead of us, and folk need to stick with the club

 

[Cack Stottie]

Cracking that, well done @Cack Stottie et al as usual. Refreshing, great listen and it's been rather uplifting after a couple of difficult days.

Thanks!

Any plans to get Ross on a pod @Cack Stottie ? Would be interesting to hear his point of view and what he's thinking tactically.

Not yet but can certainly ask

Should've been his first port of call rather than the owners

I've got nee qualms with them at all apart from their political leanings

SD approached us to do the Pod, not the other way around! Very happy that he did though as there was a lot that needed to be said

It would be interesting if rr displayed the questions that were sent in so we can observe their editorial process in action and challenge them on it if they have avoided some of the harder questions.

Pretty much all of the questions either came from here or Twitter

 

[SR1er]

I lapped this up. We're in safe hands

One tiny thing I thought was interesting was they didn't know what came first: the crowd lifting their game or the team performance. Watching Man Utd rise and then stutter under OGS, I'm sure the performance comes first which lifts the crowd, so any criticism of our fans is out of order, the shite they have to watch at times

 

[janey]

Just listened to some of it the questioning is much stronger. I hadn’t realised the EFL had said how bad we being run as a club, certainly not to the extent of being the worst they’d known

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Just listened to some of it the questioning is much stronger. I hadn’t realised the EFL had said how bad we being run as a club, certainly not to the extent of being the worst they’d known

We were a monumental shambles like, but people keep forgetting that. I suspect the EFL thought we could be the first club to actually disappear

 

[BNM]

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“I went up to Sunderland and met the manager, I saw the facilities and it’s a hell of a club and Jack Ross is a hell of a manager as has been demonstrated this season.”

"But there were things said and done by those above the manager. That ended up why I didn’t go there and that’s why I play for Charlton and not Sunderland.”

"At Charlton, the club were clear with everything. It was like, ‘This is what we’re going to do, this is what we want and this is what you want. Here’s the deal, if you like it, sign it. If you don’t, don’t sign it.’

"But, at Sunderland, it was wishy washy. We asked them for something while negotiating the contract and they said, ‘We can’t really give you that because if you don’t do that, are you going to pay us money back?’

"It was almost like, ‘Hang on, I know you’ve been involved in non-league football at Eastleigh before but this is not how professional football works.”

I.E. he (or his Agent) asked for more, and more, and more?