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Missiles being hoyed all game from North Stand Upper

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My SC is in the north stand and I was livid after the Coventry match (as you can probably tell from my posts on this thread :lol:). Having, however, spoken to few different people concerning the incident, I now acknowledge that the club took all the necessary precautions. Ulimately, the sheer numbers of dickheads within Coventry’s support made it almost impossible to police.

The police/stewards can manage a minority being disruptive, but it was a majority of Coventry fans that were either causing trouble/or happy for it to take place.

The police should have done their job and started locking the culprits up , would have had an instant effect on the rest of the fuckers.
 

It’s probably been mentioned, but after Coventry, things have changed for away fans. The first few rows in the upper are now empty, and those Pompey fans with tickets in that area tomorrow, will be moved into the corner. The reasoning:

1) it stop bellends like those three Coventry cowards from creating a scene
2) it provides an area for the police/stewards to stand to better monitor the crowd.

There is also now changes to the drink arrangements in the away end - no plastic bottles.

I do actually feel sorry for genuine Pompey fans because they would have been given an extra 1000 tickets had Coventry not been total dicks
The Donny lads were saying that it was open seating last week for them at the SOL . This was due to the front section being closed off.
As we saw, they just re aligned the away section into The NWC upper to accommodate.
@CatRyan There was a noticeable higher police presence both downstairs and in the upper. There were also plenty more stewards up there too.
 
The Donny lads were saying that it was open seating last week for them at the SOL . This was due to the front section being closed off.
As we saw, they just re aligned the away section into The NWC upper to accommodate.
@CatRyan There was a noticeable higher police presence both downstairs and in the upper. There were also plenty more stewards up there too.
Steve Neil said they would span them out further around into NWU so they could monitor them easier
 
A valid point that failing to put up thousands of pounds worth of nets will render the club liable? The club IS LIABLE for the Health, Safety and Welfare of everybody at the stadium.

How many other football clubs net in the away supporters? Manchester Utd have done it in european games to protect the fans in their disabled seating area as that was below away fans. They won't make it permanent but will consider putting it up for games where the away fans have a history of throwing objects.

Sorry for using the Daily Mail link, but their article does give the details (and some cons). Just one quote to read if you CBA to follow the link "
The netting proved successful during games with Juventus and Young Boys"



How small would the mesh have to be to prevent coins thrown?
How would the supporters, at the back of the stand, be able to see the far goal?
Would they sue the club for having a 'restricted view'?
The smaller mesh mist netting is nearly invisible and is used to catch birds weighing up to about 500g flying at about 10 - 20 mph. If even a hawk cannot see it then no human is going to have a restricted view.

The club would have to ask permission, to erect netting, and it may not even be within league rules. Possibly, but that could have all been sorted out within a week of the Coventry game.

What this 'lady' is doing is finding a cause she can climb on, for her own benefit, despite it not concerning her as she won't be at the stadium, wasn't there for Coventry and probably hasn't been this season. For her own benefit? Is @CatRyan a provider of netting for use a sport's facilities? Highlighting a well known danger is laudable, so it is irrelevant if she has attended any of our home matches. I'm sure any lawyer for fans hit by objects thrown by away fans won't have been to a single game at the SoL.

The club can only take reasonable precautions as demanded by their safety certificate. They have large 'prohibited items' signs outside the away end, they conduct searches and employ the agreed number of stewards and police. The police are paid to protect the public, inside and outside the ground, and accept that responsibility. Rubbish, as per Man United's response to the request from their Disabled fans. Personally I think it would be pathetic if they hadn't considered doing on their own, without fan prompting as they should be reviewing all safety issues that occur anyway.

However, it's impossible to totally guarantee people's safety at a football match True and writing open letters to the press and personally 'cautioning the club' smacks of blatant attention seeking. No, it is called raising concerns or even whistle blowing (quite apt) and it has to be considered in the light of possibly saving some child's life. I can't believe that Cat is getting so much flak on here for that!
 
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The Donny lads were saying that it was open seating last week for them at the SOL . This was due to the front section being closed off.
As we saw, they just re aligned the away section into The NWC upper to accommodate.
@CatRyan There was a noticeable higher police presence both downstairs and in the upper. There were also plenty more stewards up there too.

That is good. Hopefully that should do it.
 
I personally think there is a good chance it will happen again tomorrow, they are a pretty vile bunch of supporters from what I saw down Wembley and over the years
Doubt it. Police and stewards will be shit hot.
After the horse has bolted and all that.
 
Don’t shoot the messenger, but apparently, the problems were so bad - and so wide spread- that the decision was taken not to pile in and arrest people. Instead spotters were deployed to film people.


Filming people doesn’t stop the trouble, piling in and locking a few up would have reduced it immediately, not withstanding it could cause trouble between the fans and the police.

Strong arm action is sometimes necessary.
 
Filming people doesn’t stop the trouble, piling in and locking a few up would have reduced it immediately, not withstanding it could cause trouble between the fans and the police.

Strong arm action is sometimes necessary.

FWIW mate, I agree. I’m just repeating what I was told.
 
Don’t shoot the messenger, but apparently, the problems were so bad - and so wide spread- that the decision was taken not to pile in and arrest people. Instead spotters were deployed to film people.

Plenty of police were standing round at the bottom of the North Stand doing nothing - loads of people asking the inspector in charge and he did nowt - one of the coppers said his job was to watch us and make sure we didn't cause trouble another threatened to arrest someone for making a complaint. Please pass this back to whichever policeman told you this.
 
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Don’t shoot the messenger, but apparently, the problems were so bad - and so wide spread- that the decision was taken not to pile in and arrest people. Instead spotters were deployed to film people.
Not having a go at you mate, but if that's the case would the cctv/spotters have prevented a fatality, or would the spotters have arrested the person after an object had been thrown and seriously injured someone, or worse.
 
Filming people doesn’t stop the trouble, piling in and locking a few up would have reduced it immediately, not withstanding it could cause trouble between the fans and the police.

Strong arm action is sometimes necessary.

Really bad if this is true. What would they have if a child had been seriously injured or worse while they stood back filming and doing nothing to stop it?
 
My SC is in the north stand and I was livid after the Coventry match (as you can probably tell from my posts on this thread :lol:). Having, however, spoken to few different people concerning the incident, I now acknowledge that the club took all the necessary precautions. Ulimately, the sheer numbers of dickheads within Coventry’s support made it almost impossible to police.

The police/stewards can manage a minority being disruptive, but it was a majority of Coventry fans that were either causing trouble/or happy for it to take place.

If that's the police's position then it is pathetic. Judging by how brave the Coventry bad lads they were after the game, I would have thought that a few brandished batons and a couple of police dog handlers would have calmed the situation upstairs.
 
If that's the police's position then it is pathetic. Judging by how brave the Coventry bad lads they were after the game, I would have thought that a few brandished batons and a couple of police dog handlers would have calmed the situation upstairs.
Alan Sation in the North Upper , whatever next
 
Don’t shoot the messenger, but apparently, the problems were so bad - and so wide spread- that the decision was taken not to pile in and arrest people. Instead spotters were deployed to film people.

I know you're not saying you agree with it, but what a daft decision that is from the police if true. As others have mentioned, the next bottle thrown might have seriously injured a kid, simply sitting back and filming isn't good enough. And equally, if they are going to do that, I'd at least expect to see a significant number of arrests, haven't heard anything about large numbers being collared since the game
 
I know you're not saying you agree with it, but what a daft decision that is from the police if true. As others have mentioned, the next bottle thrown might have seriously injured a kid, simply sitting back and filming isn't good enough. And equally, if they are going to do that, I'd at least expect to see a significant number of arrests, haven't heard anything about large numbers being collared since the game
Agree
At what point would they consider wading in ?
 
I know you're not saying you agree with it, but what a daft decision that is from the police if true. As others have mentioned, the next bottle thrown might have seriously injured a kid, simply sitting back and filming isn't good enough. And equally, if they are going to do that, I'd at least expect to see a significant number of arrests, haven't heard anything about large numbers being collared since the game

It's a cop out ....
 
can I suggest we relay the live CCTV of the visiting fans to the large screen up to KO time, just to show them that they are being recorded, and maybe put a cautionary message up ( and over the speakers) to warn them of the consequences of any trouble. If the quality is anywhere half decent they might get the message.
Put the away fans on the big screen in the build up to a home game? Are you right in the head?
 
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