Charlie Chimp
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No mate. I do have a close friend who is though.
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Ashwin mankands Buttler
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No mate. I do have a close friend who is though.
Where did you play?
I played for 40 years and never actually saw it happen in person. Heard about it a couple of times, but never actually saw it.
Voice of fair play
Striker
Yep I played from 12 till late 30s never seen it even once!
The Voice Of Reason
Heaven Branch
Happened to me at East Rainton was young and daft so probably deserved it
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Augustus Gloop
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The stigma associated with mankading needs to go away.
Now agreed, this specific instance ashwin found a loophole in the way the laws are written and took advantage of buttler’s inattentiveness, but in most cases mankading can’t even occur unless the batsman has been trying to cheat
These calls of ‘you gotta warn the batsman’ are, quite frankly, stupid. Do you have an obligation to warn the thief who steals into your house the first time you see him? Or are you going to punch them in the mouth at earliest opportunity ?
Now agreed, this specific instance ashwin found a loophole in the way the laws are written and took advantage of buttler’s inattentiveness, but in most cases mankading can’t even occur unless the batsman has been trying to cheat
These calls of ‘you gotta warn the batsman’ are, quite frankly, stupid. Do you have an obligation to warn the thief who steals into your house the first time you see him? Or are you going to punch them in the mouth at earliest opportunity ?
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Heaven Branch
It’s cricket man not getting your house broken into
Agree with this.
Last over of a very tight game, 9 wickets down, batting side need 2 or 3 to win. Batsman steals yards and helps side win game. Won’t even end up being discussed.
Same scenario but bowler mankads batsman stealing yards and all hell would break loose.
As you say this instance with butler was harsh but even if he had been trying to gain a yard it would’ve been a similar outcryas apparently ‘it’s just not cricket’
The Voice Of Reason
Heaven Branch
Agree with this.
Last over of a very tight game, 9 wickets down, batting side need 2 or 3 to win. Batsman steals yards and helps side win game. Won’t even end up being discussed.
Same scenario but bowler mankads batsman stealing yards and all hell would break loose.
As you say this instance with butler was harsh but even if he had been trying to gain a yard it would’ve been a similar outcryas apparently ‘it’s just not cricket’
Can see you doing it
Nasty piece of work you .....
There’s no way I’m getting into my delivery stride then stopping to have to do it again. 6 ball overs are too many for me these days never mind 7
The Voice Of Reason
Heaven Branch
There’s no way I’m getting into my delivery stride then stopping to have to do it again. 6 ball overs are too many for me these days never mind 7
Was that time at Langley when you kept ganin over the fence ......
1 for 0 from 10 deliveries to 1 for 50 from 4 overs
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Augustus Gloop
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So why is everyone getting so worked up over it then?
Clearly people think a bowler enforcing the rules is somehow comparable to immoral behavior deserving international outcry. In that case, why is a batsman attempting to blatantly cheat not comparable to theft?
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Heaven Branch
He wasn’t attempting to blatantly cheat the bowlers action in stopping is the contentious issue
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Augustus Gloop
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Oh, I wasn’t talking about this specific one. Agree that ashwin has stretched the rules to take advantage of inattention here.
I was more talking in general, where batsmen do attempt to gain the extra yard and yet for some reason it’s the bowler who is the dishonorable one. Every time there is a mankading people go on about the spirit of cricket and how inappropriate the bowler’s actions were. My point is that in the vast majority of cases, there wouldn’t be a mankading if the batsman wasn’t a cheat.
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The Voice Of Reason
Heaven Branch
Been involved in cricket all my life only seen it happen once ( to me ! ) and can hardly remember bowlers warning batsmen.
Would still give a warning even if I thought they were taking the piss
After that mind ....
Voice of fair play
Striker
That quite frankly is a ridiculous comparison.
Unfortunately, I can beat this:1 for 0 from 10 deliveries to 1 for 50 from 4 overs
2 overs, 0 wickets, 64 runs.
I blame the skipper who gave me another over after the first one went for 32.
At least I was consistent.
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Augustus Gloop
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Agree, but it’s apt
It’s ridiculous to compare a batsman stealing a yard to a thief stealing from your house
Just like it is ridiculous to accuse a bowler of cheating when he’s actually the one ensuring the rules are enforced
In fact, i’d like to make another ridiculous but yet strangely apt comparison. Accusing the bowler of unbecoming conduct for a mankading is like accusing a woman of assault because she kneed her would-be rapist in the balls.
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