Smartin
Winger
I agree they shouldn’t, but I’m sure we all have nephews and nieces, in my case, or sons and daughters, that are locked away in their rooms for 10 hours a day training to kill people on these ridiculous games.
Shooting in a mosque in NZ...
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bigmarlon
Winger
Whenever something like this happens everybody looks for someone or something to blame. Religion, politics, computer games, films, Trump, Brexit, the internet, whatever. At the end of the day this attack was carried out by a group of sick evil individuals intent on killing innocent people.
Tommy Robinson hasn't killed anyone. It's perfectly acceptable to dislike Islam or want closed borders. I may not agree with his views, but he's within his rights to have them. Putting Tommy the Tit and this act of terrorism in the same boat is ridiculous. Have a f***ing word with yourself man.
Smartin
Winger
If you have seen the video, which I hope you haven’t, you’ll understand.
He is basically recreating a computer game.
Charlie Chimp
Midfield
No. Lone mental gunman. We love to eat that shit up. Makes us feel more cosy wosy in bed.
Mackem00
Striker
My mate commented that the footage is played out exactly like Call of duty like.
The Muffin Man
Winger
Watched a beheading about 20 years ago while doing my dissertation on war in Iraq, had nightmares for a fortnight, it was horrific, I will not be watching any of these videos, they need to be removed from the web asap but no doubt that is impossible now they have been shared so many times.
Aituk7
Striker
Well stop them. You wouldn't let children watch porn, it's over 18 too.
Don't blame the game, it comes with a warning saying this is suitable for adults only.
That's just because its on a go pro.
dangermows
Striker
Good points, and I can't disagree.
Howard the Duck
Striker
Double standards here mind. Every Islamic terror attack descends into the ‘religion of peace’ crack on the first page (half the time before the attacker has even been identified as Muslim) and point scoring continues from there.
dangermows
Striker
See what he means. It's just the gun in view and people legging it all over whilst the shots fire.
HABA87
Striker
When I was growing up I played the Speccy games like Op Wolf, International Karate, Renegade etc. I watched most of the late 80's Schwarzenneger and suchlike films repeatedly. Most of my toys growing up were Action Force, where they had all kinds of weapons.
I've never thrown so much of a punch at another person in my life.
Violent content has always been there.
In all fairness TR doesn't advocate violent retribution. Trump does, and I won't apologise for including him in this discussion, as he his part of the problem. There's no other western leader who regularly advocates violence like he does, and whips his supporters up into believing that it's acceptable. He is the elephant in the room, and his influence shouldn't be ignored.
Aituk7
Striker
That's because of the reaction it gets.
Look at the responses on here from everyone compared to an Islamic incident of any kind.
No one's being called racist, no one's denying an ideology is involved, no one's defending the ideology involved.
I think most people would rightly object to an act of Islamist terror being described as "only a matter of time" after the actions of the West in the middle East, for example. The support of Western governments for brutal and corrupt dictators, air strikes which kill and maim civilians and so on are frequently used by radical Islamists to justify their actions. But it is not right to say there is a direct causation between those acts and any kind of retaliation. The grievance, yes, in some cases entirely justified grievance. But between the grievance and the act of violence there are choices. Choices to adopt an extreme and evil ideology. Choices to spread lies and hatred. Choices to actively radicalise and recruit the susceptible and willing. Choices to exploit grievances for a sick agenda rather than actually seek solutions. Becoming radicalised is not a reflex action or inevitable, and neither is terrorism.
People chose to be violent and destroy the lives of others. More significantly perhaps, people chose to groom and manipulate people who were vulnerable in some way to be violent. Other people chose to give in to their prejudices and worst instincts rather than try to be constructive, and help a hateful atmosphere of division to flourish. This was not inevitable. People chose this. People who need to be stopped.
Aituk7
Striker
You've also got to remember Trump should be held to a much higher standard than someone like TR or anyone else for that matter. He's the president of the United States.
The Muffin Man
Winger
Wherever people are allowed to spout the kind of bile he and extremists on the other side do and they are not challenged and condemned by every right minded person, they lead other people believe these views are acceptable and normal. All right wing extremism and extremist islam need to be rooted out and banned as they have each other engaged in an escalating spiral of hate........All right minded people who want it to stop need to stop justifying any of the things that are said by anybody trying to whip up this hatred.
safcpelaw
Central Defender
I would never point score on any thread to be fair, its tragic and The others who have the same radial views need locking up.
SeahamMackem
Winger
Not one person on this thread had subtly played down anything before you posted. Everyone was saying it was disgusting.
You've made a straw man and have argued against it in one post. Well done.
Baghdad McBadLad
Midfield
Just a new generation with new horrors marra, the next generation will have their own horrors...! It's a repeating cycle!
It's only scary if you bring your daughter up to believe that it's acceptable. What you should/will do is... bring her up to be a decent law abiding human who deplores such horrors. Whilst having such a good morale code, she can then pass this upbringing onto her own children and on it will go!
That I shall do!
