Halifax Grooming Gang

[chunkyshanhawk53]

So can you point to anyone saying different about the thread you mentioned?

I can’t see anyone making excuses for the sad bastard, can you? A nonce is a nonce.

“I knew a lass when i was in school who used to go out on the town and she was only 13.

Lasses can fake their age when they wear make up like”

Page 1. Funnily enough, the OP on this thread

It’s quite remarkable how angry he gets when it suits

(Let me stupidly clear for the stupid people. Both crimes are ridiculously abhorrent. Equally stupid is criticising one crime and not the other)

 

[Zig81]

“I knew a lass when i was in school who used to go out on the town and she was only 13.

Lasses can fake their age when they wear make up like”

Page 1. Funnily enough, the OP on this thread

It’s quite remarkable how angry he gets when it suits

(Let me stupidly clear for the stupid people. Both crimes are ridiculously abhorrent. Equally stupid is criticising one crime and not the other)

Nobody is making excuses for him, unless you are looking for them.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Nobody is making excuses for him, unless you are looking for them.

He just did. It’s right there in the post you quoted

 

[daveydavey]

I don't know why you want to argue with these people. Everybody knows it's a problem, but you've got snowflakes going out of their way to defend the indefensible.

Just let it go, the real world sees it.

 

[Aituk7]

I think we all agree that they are absolute c***s. Well I certainly do

Can I just check that we all think the same about the bloke with the 12 year old on the other thread?

Welcome back by the way

I think it's one of the weirdest cases I've ever heard if what's been reported is true. Not comparable to this if thats's what you are suggesting...

But I think the outcome was pretty good. He needs to be watched incase he is lying and she is confused... and she needs help.

I just see a whole lot of people on this thread not commenting on the other

I see one person who is livid on this thread making a throwaway comment on the other and then leaving.

One is based on a conviction.
One Is based on a story at this point. Given the history highly likely to lead to a conviction obviously.

Jesus christ

Seriously.... embaressing and pathetic.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Welcome back by the way

I think it's one of the weirdest cases I've ever heard if what's been reported is true. Not comparable to this if thats's what you are suggesting...

But I think the outcome was pretty good. He needs to be watched incase he is lying and she is confused... and she needs help.

Thanks. What’s reported is more than what’s reported in this thread.

And I’m not comparing cases. I’m not stupid enough to do that.

I’m comparing reactions.

Welcome back by the way

I think it's one of the weirdest cases I've ever heard if what's been reported is true. Not comparable to this if thats's what you are suggesting...

But I think the outcome was pretty good. He needs to be watched incase he is lying and she is confused... and she needs help.


Jesus christ

Seriously.... embaressing and pathetic.

You can’t even spell it for starters.

You’re all over this shit normally. It’s your thing.

One throwaway comment and you leave the thread. It’s funny isn’t it.

 

[Aituk7]

Thanks. What’s reported is more than what’s reported in this thread.

And I’m not comparing cases. I’m not stupid enough to do that.

I’m comparing reactions.

And so am I.

In the other thread 1 girl is claiming she dolled herself up to look 19 and had sex consenually with a guy. That doesn't excuse it, it's sick and that guy needs watching and she needs help.

I've said my bit about it and no one really cared... no one even replied.



On this thread I've also gave my opinion on tens of thousands of victims... been replied to a tonne of times and called worse than shit.


This is my point... when it's anything else.... no on gives a shite..... when it's islam... for some reason... all your mates go f***ing crazy

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

And so am I.

In the other thread 1 girl is claiming she dolled herself up to look 19 and had sex consenually with a guy. That doesn't excuse it, it's sick and that guy needs watching and she needs help.

I've said my bit about it and no one really cared... no one even replied.



On this thread I've also gave my opinion on tens of thousands of victims... been replied to a tonne of times and called worse than shit.


This is my point... when it's anything else.... no on gives a shite..... when it's islam... for some reason... all your mates go f***ing crazy

Couple of points

1) she was 12
2) this grooming gang were not responsible for tens of thousands (I’ll assume)

This is my point....when it’s anything else....no one gives a shit....when it’s Islam....for some reason.....all your mates go f***ing crazy

Ps you didn’t say it was sick, you said

“I knew a lass when i was in school who used to go out on the town and she was only 13.

Lasses can fake their age when they wear make up like”

 

[Aituk7]

You can’t even spell it for starters.

You’re all over this shit normally. It’s your thing.

One throwaway comment and you leave the thread. It’s funny isn’t it.

Start a thread called christianity is awful.

Within about 10 pages it will be dealt with, no one wil care, most will agree and it will be over.

If I started a thread called Islam is awful..... what do you think would happen?

The reactions are to everything... there is no comparison between these two threads.

And what you've just said is genuinely the most pathetic thing I have ever seen you say on this board.

I never had you down as a WUM but that's literally what you've just gone and done a fantastic impression of.

Ridiculous.

Couple of points

1) she was 12
2) this grooming gang were not responsible for tens of thousands (I’ll assume)

This is my point....when it’s anything else....no one gives a shit....when it’s Islam....for some reason.....all your mates go f***ing crazy

Ps you didn’t say it was sick, you said

“I knew a lass when i was in school who used to go out on the town and she was only 13.

Lasses can fake their age when they wear make up like”

Ok I'm telling you now it's sick... but still a weird story... it's not a case of 20 guys sharing a child about...

and it is part of a bigger picture involving 10s of thousands of victims!


Either way WHATS YOUR f***ing POINT?????

I said that and no one gave a shit.... Do you want me to keep posting until finally someone says something back???

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Start a thread called christianity is awful.

Within about 10 pages it will be dealt with, no one wil care, most will agree and it will be over.

If I started a thread called Islam is awful..... what do you think would happen?

The reactions are to everything... there is no comparison between these two threads.

And what you've just said is genuinely the most pathetic thing I have ever seen you say on this board.

I never had you down as a WUM but that's literally what you've just gone and done a fantastic impression of.

Ridiculous.


Ok I'm telling you now it's sick... but still a weird story... it's not a case of 20 guys sharing a child about...

and it is part of a bigger picture involving 10s of thousands of victims!


Either way WHATS YOUR f***ing POINT?????

I said that and no one gave a shit.... Do you want me to keep posting until finally someone says something back???

Given you have an opinion on this topic, rather regularly, I think it’s important that you’re consistent.

On the Christian couple burying their kid, your first reply was I believe “Gd”. I’m pretty certain that’s not your response otherwise

Call me a mullah brother or some utter shit now. I condemn all f***ing idiots, all f***ing religions actually, equally. I do think there is a problem with Muslim gangs in the U.K. btw. It’s a complete f***ing travesty and something needs to be done about it

 

[Aituk7]

Given you have an opinion on this topic, rather regularly, I think it’s important that you’re consistent.

On the Christian couple burying their kid, your first reply was I believe “Gd”. I’m pretty certain that’s not your response otherwise

Call me a mullah brother or some utter shit now. I condemn all f***ing idiots, all f***ing religions actually, equally. I do think there is a problem with Muslim gangs in the U.K. btw. It’s a complete f***ing travesty and something needs to be done about it

I don't think these two threads are in any way comparable. I don't know why you've came here to try and make such a big deal out of something that are complately and utterly seperate of each other.. other than to go on a windup that you haven't thought through very well.

You want me to be consistent? Read the thread... I was proven where I had my recollections of the bible wrong in points and in return for me agreeing and saying indeed I was wrong I was called a moron I have no problem bashing the bible... I detest the bible. It's an awful book full of innacuracies and hypocrisys that i wish people didn't believe in. If i started a thread on that topic... it would be dead within 10 pages. if I started a thread on Islam.... it'd still be going in a weeks time.

Look at the other thread about the paedo.... no one being called racist or bigot... or far right.... you wonder why no ones commenting on it... thers barely anything to comment on!!

This on the other hand is the rape of tens of thousands of kids in similar M.O's across the country and people are giving us shit for speculating it might be more than just a coincidence why it keeps happening exactly the same every time. That's why I'm still commenting on here, because people keep calling me worse than shit and cos people keep posting nonsense.

If you want me to reply more on the other thread... reply to one of my posts.... instead of bitching about it on a random post at the end of the thread with no one tagged so no one would be alerted to.

I've been tagged 3 times in this thread alone!


See where I'm coming from??? Ofcourse you don't, you have your mind set and don't want to sway it.... well before you dissapear think about this....

Speaking of consistency how about you and the rest of the mullah brothers who proffess your lefty liberal values so ardently and are absolutely sure I'm the one who is a member/activist/supporter/whatever of the alt-right fascist right wing...... how about you actually stand against all right wing ideologies equally and all intolerances equally.... and call out one of the most intolerable ideologies on the planet occasionally.

It isn't just me saying this... andrew norfolk, the man who broke this story in the mainstream also says this.... pretending this has nothing to do with Islam and saying it is offensive to suggest it does..... is part of the problem in solving these issues.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

I don't think these two threads are in any way comparable. I don't know why you've came here to try and make such a big deal out of something that are complately and utterly seperate of each other.. other than to go on a windup that you haven't thought through very well.

You want me to be consistent? Read the thread... I was proven where I had my recollections of the bible wrong in points and in return for me agreeing and saying indeed I was wrong I was called a moron I have no problem bashing the bible... I detest the bible. It's an awful book full of innacuracies and hypocrisys that i wish people didn't believe in. If i started a thread on that topic... it would be dead within 10 pages. if I started a thread on Islam.... it'd still be going in a weeks time.

Look at the other thread about the paedo.... no one being called racist or bigot... or far right.... you wonder why no ones commenting on it... thers barely anything to comment on!!

This on the other hand is the rape of tens of thousands of kids in similar M.O's across the country and people are giving us shit for speculating it might be more than just a coincidence why it keeps happening exactly the same every time. That's why I'm still commenting on here, because people keep calling me worse than shit and cos people keep posting nonsense.

If you want me to reply more on the other thread... reply to one of my posts.... instead of bitching about it on a random post at the end of the thread with no one tagged so no one would be alerted to.

I've been tagged 3 times in this thread alone!


See where I'm coming from??? Ofcourse you don't, you have your mind set and don't want to sway it.... well before you dissapear think about this....

Speaking of consistency how about you and the rest of the mullah brothers who proffess your lefty liberal values so ardently and are absolutely sure I'm the one who is a member/activist/supporter/whatever of the alt-right fascist right wing...... how about you actually stand against all right wing ideologies equally and all intolerances equally.... and call out one of the most intolerable ideologies on the planet occasionally.

It isn't just me saying this... andrew norfolk, the man who broke this story in the mainstream also says this.... pretending this has nothing to do with Islam and saying it is offensive to suggest it does..... is part of the problem in solving these issues.

1) This is not the rape of tens of thousands of kids.
2) I stand against them all, but consistently

 

[Aituk7]

1) This is not the rape of tens of thousands of kids.
2) I stand against them all, but consistently

This is the rape of tens of thousands of kids across this country.

I hope you do, I don't see it.

Nice of you to forget about the other 90% of my post.



Never mind.

 

[dangermows]

@dangermows - you do this "they're not real Muslims" routine in all these threads, you have a point but it's hugely flawed. How many of the 1.5 billion people who identify themselves as Muslims follow the teachings of the Quran and Hadiths to the letter? A tiny amount I reckon (technically there may even be none). Same for Christians with the Bible, which is basically impossible to follow to the letter due to the contradictions within the texts - I don't know the Quran as well but I'm sure there are similar contradictions. The fact is that the vast majority of religious people pick and choose what to follow from their Holy book of choice, there is also the issue of some text being unclear, open to intepretation etc. Therefore, your definition of a "real Muslim" being somebody who follows everything in the Quran and Hadiths to the letter may technically be correct but renders itself completely useless in any type of discussion as hardly anybody/nobody from 1.5 billion followers of Islam would qualify under your definition.

The pertinent point is that the majority of these paedophile rapists in this case (and others we've seen in this country) would identify themselves as Muslim - I'd be willing to stake a fair amount of money on that.

My questions to you on this point are;
1) Who are you to define who is and isn't a "real Muslim"? and
2) If somebody who identifies as a Muslim does something good, heroic etc, would you be so quick to challenge his or her claim of being a Muslim? If not, why not? After all, it's extremely unlikely/impossible that they'd meet your definition of a "real Muslim"...

Marra, my point is this....

Some on here, and one in particular, continues to argue grooming and raping is because of the Quran/Islam saying its okay. I'm saying if the Quran said rape is forbidden it'd still happen. Why? Because other things it forbids still happen. So blaming the text is a cop out. You can't have it both ways. Either these people are acting because of the text or they're not.

It's a cultural issue, where woman of all faiths, including Islam, are seen as beneath men. In the same way women have been seen as second class/beneath men all across the globe. Difference is some countries are a few hundreds years behind us in the west.

I think I said it best here when summarising how people blame the text in a book when it suits (and it's laughable if you actually think about it)
Halifax Grooming Gang

 

[Aituk7]

Marra, my point is this....

Some on here, and one in particular, continues to argue grooming and raping is because of the Quran/Islam saying its okay. I'm saying if the Quran said rape is forbidden it'd still happen. Why? Because other things it forbids still happen. So blaming the text is a cop out. You can't have it both ways. Either these people are acting because of the text or they're not.

It's a cultural issue, where woman of all faiths, including Islam, are seen as beneath men. In the same way women have been seen as second class/beneath men all across the globe. Difference is some countries are a few hundreds years behind us in the west.

I think I said it best here when summarising how people blame the text in a book when it suits (and it's laughable if you actually think about it)
Halifax Grooming Gang

Do you not see how that's a bit of an oxymoron?

 

[dangermows]

Do you not see how that's a bit of an oxymoron?

Nope. Its showing that its ridiculous to blame the text for rape just because it says it is okay. Yet all the things it forbids still happen too. So it's safe to conclude they'd still rape regardless of what the Quran says. Night marra.

 

[Aituk7]

Marra, my point is this....

Some on here, and one in particular, continues to argue grooming and raping is because of the Quran/Islam saying its okay. I'm saying if the Quran said rape is forbidden it'd still happen. Why? Because other things it forbids still happen. So blaming the text is a cop out. You can't have it both ways. Either these people are acting because of the text or they're not.

It's a cultural issue, where woman of all faiths, including Islam, are seen as beneath men. In the same way women have been seen as second class/beneath men all across the globe. Difference is some countries are a few hundreds years behind us in the west.

I think I said it best here when summarising how people blame the text in a book when it suits (and it's laughable if you actually think about it)
Halifax Grooming Gang

 

[dangermows]

Yep, things forbidden happen too, therefore the issue is cultural, glad you finally agree

 

[rentaghost]

Like a lot of racists the OP says a lot of words to try and convince everyone that he isn't indeed a racist. at the end of the day:

All sexual abuse of young girls in the UK = Predominately white male offenders
Most common forms of sexual abuse = Domestic, religious, online = Predominately white male offenders
Gang grooming a less common form of sexual abuse than above = Predominately Muslim offenders
Night time economy = Over representation of Muslim workers which lends itself to that mode of operation.

All forms of sexual abusers are utter scum but race and culture is a tiny contributor IMO. If it was then a much higher percentage of Muslims would be represented in all forms of child abuse rather than just the one.

 

[---Nemo---]

He's made other disgusting comments on this thread. Surprised he's allowed to post on it tbh.

He fucked off for years last time he plumbed the depths. Fingers crossed history repeats itself.