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Dilligaf60 said:
Really? Is that the best you can do? Is this what passes for discussion these days? I don’t agree, I don’t conform, therefore I’m an idiot?
Where have I heard this before.


You can change your jumper now.
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Wasn't wanting a discussion, was just making an observation.

Gan to bed and sleep it off mate.
 
tunstallhill said:
If i see power and cattermole and Maguire in the starting 11 in that midfield '3' before the Wimbledon game it will be the first time I'll question him to any degree.

He simply has to find a way to play someone upfront with maja, or get honeyman behind maja, or onien in th4 middle with mcgeoch and watmore up top with maja, or 3 at the back and bring Oviedo back in... Something new... don't know exactly what, but that's his job and our current system simply isn't working, and hasn't for the last 2 months, he must be able to see it. Carry on like this and there are a few more defeats coming our way.

For what it's worth, I like the bloke and to get us to 3rd within spitting distance of top is fantastic considering where we were back in June, but the steadying of the team is done, we need to find a way to start dominating
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Denis Smith's task in 88 was equally as tough as Jr's but he carried it off in far better fashion.
 
shaun61 said:
Denis Smith's task in 88 was equally as tough as Jr's but he carried it off in far better fashion.
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Smiths task was not as difficult he inherited a team that was relegated in a play off game .A team relegated non the less but a team who did have a chance of staying up not like last season we were never going to stop up.I will forever be grateful to Denis Smith ,however he didn't have to put up with the upheaval of new ownership and having to basically cobble a team together in a couple of months .Further more Denis didn't have some of the experts from this forum on his back
 
the earl percy said:
Smiths task was not as difficult he inherited a team that was relegated in a play off game .A team relegated non the less but a team who did have a chance of staying up not like last season we were never going to stop up.I will forever be grateful to Denis Smith ,however he didn't have to put up with the upheaval of new ownership and having to basically cobble a team together in a couple of months .Further more Denis didn't have some of the experts from this forum on his back
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You have downplayed things a little.
There was a big upheaval in the squad and little money to play with as lawrie mac had virtually bankrupted us.
Smith made some clever signings for next to nowt, brought in young uns like Owers and after a, stuttering first few games, away we went playing good attractive football and scoring goals a plenty.
Ross still doesn't know his best 11, the football is turgid and he seems to have abandoned his St Mirren principles for some unknown reason.
Fwiw, I think he has done a fairly good job so far given the summer upheaval, and it won't take much to get us top 2, but ffs, let's have some up tempo football with movement, pace and decent passing.
 
He did indeed but things were not as bad as the end of last season .Smith did make some shrewd signings typically Marco and someone must have sanctioned Eric Gates wages .We are now debt free but we still run at a loss I think some on here just want to make the same mistakes over again Stewart Donald is correct when he says we must learn to live with in our means.We ha e had the fiasco of Ndong and Djilobodji sorted out not forgetting Rodwell .I'm as passionate as anyone on here about our club.However I'm happy seeing small steps in the right direction

OohBaldyBally said:
I’m convinced most of this board are manic depressive.
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That's the more cheerful ones
 
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Hope springs eternal said:
No comparison, in my opinion. Ross's circumstances were/are so much more difficult.
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This ownership upheaval excuse malarkey is bollocks tho really.
It was sorted out early in the close season and because of it, Ross got the feckin job!!
He had a large portion of the close season to bed in, took all the friendly games and was made aware that some of the players still on the books would be sold.
Much of the shite had already gone by the time he arrived tbf - mainly the loans of which we had a canny few.
I don't think he's had it much tougher than Denis and Viv tbh and whether he can emulate them remains to be seen.
 
shaun61 said:
This ownership upheaval excuse malarkey is bollocks tho really.
It was sorted out early in the close season and because of it, Ross got the feckin job!!
He had a large portion of the close season to bed in, took all the friendly games and was made aware that some of the players still on the books would be sold.
Much of the shite had already gone by the time he arrived tbf - mainly the loans of which we had a canny few.
I don't think he's had it much tougher than Denis and Viv tbh and whether he can emulate them remains to be seen.
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the negativity on here is getting depressing now I'm going to continue with my life I've better to do than listen to the whingers on this forum .I m going to meet up with some lads who like and a bit crack Sunday afternoon you know proper lads who don't look back to 1988
 
the earl percy said:
the negativity on here is getting depressing now I'm going to continue with my life I've better to do than listen to the whingers on this forum .I m going to meet up with some lads who like and a bit crack Sunday afternoon you know proper lads who don't look back to 1988
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Good for you. Enjoy.
 
shaun61 said:
So ???
How does that affect things on the pitch.
Smiths football was generally good to watch.
Jr' s is shit.
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so what do you suggest? i agree the way he has the team set up, the system he is playing, is doing us no favours, but i don't think this season was ever going to be as pretty and easy as people expected.

the point i was trying to make is that expectancy levels, and pressure from all angles, 24/7 wasn't the same then as it is now
 
tunstallhill said:
so what do you suggest? i agree the way he has the team set up, the system he is playing, is doing us no favours, but i don't think this season was ever going to be as pretty and easy as people expected.

the point i was trying to make is that expectancy levels, and pressure from all angles, 24/7 wasn't the same then as it is now
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OK, fair point.
 
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