I do understand that he was silly to do it and there is no way I would do that personally, I just don't think him being called out as a racist by some is correct, that's not racist to me but I may have a different opinion to others I understand that and its something im going to read up on in the future as it intrests me why I have a different opinion to others without actually knowing to many facts about what went on, I do know slavery existed and people we treat like shite, but I actually want to know more and then maybe I can back up my opinion our see this from a different light.
I might not mean to run someone over with my car but, if I do, I suspect I’ll review my driving style.
Being neither an African tyrant, a 16th century catholic or an Irish man, you’re asking the wrong person Rivs. That’s my point. I’m not even saying with certainly that black face is racist. I’m not black so can’t say for sure. I understand the historical significance and have seen enough reaction to think that it probably is - and therefore would never do it in any circumstances. However I would never presume to tell black people that an action categorically does not constitute racism when it clearly offends so many of them. That seems like the very definition of white privilege to me. “I don’t care what you think, sonny. I’m white so I know best”.
) is in the same sphere tbh.
Yep there’s good examples there. The les Ferdinand one is particularly true and comes from a place of innocence. You could also find a situation where it may be acceptable from a point of satire (perhaps the Idi Amin example). The idea that this dick is an arch satirist is stretching the bounds of credibility way past breaking point, though.Potentially not. The problem with the looky looky man thing is it’s punching down to people who are economically insecure and seen by many as a mildly annoying sideshow accompanying their 10 day all inclusive holiday. The sort of thing the subject of their mockery could never dream of enjoying.
I wouldn’t say dressing up as a very specific person, say Idi Amin (what an example
E.g - that mag dressed as Les Ferdinand. It’s a bit distasteful but to all intents and purposes he’s dressing up as someone he admires hugely. Now I suppose there’s every chance this footballer really admires Senegalese beach vendors, but I suspect not.
Not at all but, if you're trying to make a point in writing it's best to use the correct words and phrases.
Bleeding and 'bleeding out' is another example
Is sending this card, on St Patrick's Day, or dressing up as a stereotypical Irishman racist ..... if not why is dressing as a 'looky looky man' so different?
As I said before, ask an Irish person and they’ll tell you one way or another. If there’s a difference in perception from the ‘targeted’ group then they’ll be looked at differently.
What if you really like black people and ‘black up’ for fancy dress for a laugh? And black people you know don’t find it offensive, does that still make it racist? Genuine question!
I think surely racism is mostly intent? Obviously there are things which are blatantly racist but things like this obviously don’t have racist intent so surely can’t be racist?
