Gammon-Watch: Jamesons , Sunderland - Thu 6th Dec

[Keith S30S]

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Yawn, boring Ben strikes again...

 

[Purrfect South]

I could go through that step by step but it will dilute the conversation so I will just say I think you are adding in a few of your own dots in the joining up process there.

Also if you wanted the monetary elite to control Europe then look no further than the European Union. The place is designed for corporatists to lobby unelected bureaucrats that do not feel the pressure of a populace upon them. I used to be a remainer until I researched what the place was all about. It is inherently designed to be as unaccountable to the average person as possible whilst still being able to pretend to be democratic.

As I said. It's just one set of monetary elites pitched against another. We're just pawns in their games.

Yawn, boring Ben strikes again...

The thing that you fail to see, is that Ben isn't boring. I'd say that this 24 page thread is proof of that.

 

[Keith S30S]

As I said. It's just one set of monetary elites pitched against another. We're just pawns in their games.


The thing that you fail to see, is that Ben isn't boring. I'd say that this 24 page thread is proof of that.

He's a one dimensional dullard but then one (wo)man's meat is another man's poisen.

 

[Purrfect South]

He's a one dimensional dullard but then one (wo)man's meat is another man's poisen.

There's not a reply from anyone arguing with him that isn't one dimensional too.

 

[Ben Gardner]

Yawn, boring Ben strikes again...

Well, you don't have the ability to handle or respond to facts and undoubted unchallenged evidence that reports (even from HM Gov) have revealed, so I thought a meme might get a bite from you.

 

[zwartekat]

Sick of brexit me like. Gets me reet on the bottom. Can’t avoid it anywhere. Bore fest.

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[DisillusionedOldGit]

Looks like this is the paper for you!

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Yeah, something important ! Not this brexit shit . Why hasnt this divisive shite not been consigned to the politics bin so that people who've garnered a lifetime of political nous from 20 odd year living with mum and dad can
ague themselves to death .

 

[redgauntlet]

many remainers would love to go (me included) but it's more likely they WORK for a living so won't be able to make it.

As for the Josephs lot? Just like any other day, really!

Not for long.

 

[the boot]

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Not for me mate. Don’t read tabloids.

 

[Aituk7]

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Spoken like a true little Englander that has only ever been abroad to Benidorm.

Does Estonia look like a shit hole in the photo above? Or even the photo below?

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Live from Estonia

So we should have had a negotiator that was not only willing for the UK to break the good Friday agreement but also willing to push the EU into agreeing to break it.

Come on, surely you realise that is an unreasonable position?

No one should break the good friday agreement, no one needs to break the good friday agreement. It is possible for the UK to make an arrangement with the republic if the EU would allow it.

As I said. It's just one set of monetary elites pitched against another. We're just pawns in their games.


The thing that you fail to see, is that Ben isn't boring. I'd say that this 24 page thread is proof of that.

But we can realistically change one, we can't change the other.

You telling me a corbyn led britain would be the monetary elites running the county?

 

[WHD]

No one should break the good friday agreement, no one needs to break the good friday agreement. It is possible for the UK to make an arrangement with the republic if the EU would allow it.

That would involve the EU breaking the WTO free trade area rules though. It isn't a case of the EU not "allowing it".

Haway mate, I know you aren't daft. If we make an agreement with Eire alone they would need to leave the EU themselves.

 

[Mackem00]

My sister in law was over recently and was impressed with our De Longhi bean to cup coffee machine. They looked at getting one on the Black Friday deals but they were nearly double the price over there primarily down to tariffs as they are imported from Italy and have different models for the 110V voltage.

Eeeeee, how the other half live.

 

[Aituk7]

That would involve the EU breaking the WTO free trade area rules though. It isn't a case of the EU not "allowing it".

Haway mate, I know you aren't daft. If we make an agreement with Eire alone they would need to leave the EU themselves.

I should rephrase, an agreement with the EU that only affects northern Ireland and Ireland.

This issue is easily resolvable if we had the will of both sides (but mainly the EU) to resolve it.

Eeeeee, how the other half live.

Spoilt..... the lotta them!

 

[WHD]

I should rephrase, an agreement with the EU that only affects northern Ireland and Ireland.

We had that on offer, with a border down the Irish sea. May rejected it, although if she wasn't propped up by the DUP who totally opposed it, I think she would have gone for it.

This issue is easily resolvable if we had the will of both sides (but mainly the EU) to resolve it.

It's not, mainly because we have two totally opposed points of view on each side.

It would be easily solved if both sides agreed to a hard land border (i.e. agreed to cancel the good Friday agreement) or a border down the Irish sea. Unfortunately both sides totally disagree.

 

[Aituk7]

We had that on offer, with a border down the Irish sea. May rejected it, although if she wasn't propped up by the DUP who totally opposed it, I think she would have gone for it.


It's not, mainly because we have two totally opposed points of view on each side.

It would be easily solved if both sides agreed to a hard land border (i.e. agreed to cancel the good Friday agreement) or a border down the Irish sea. Unfortunately both sides totally disagree.

Doesn't need to be either or. We just need an agreement where people who are from northern ireland are allowed to travel to the south and vice versa regardless. There are already customs checks in place for certain goods where things like VAT etc. vary. We agree to keep our standards on the most prominent;y transported goods the same as the EU's and voila we have a workable solution.

 

[WHD]

Doesn't need to be either or. We just need an agreement where people who are from northern ireland are allowed to travel to the south and vice versa regardless. There are already customs checks in place for certain goods where things like VAT etc. vary. We agree to keep our standards on the most prominent;y transported goods the same as the EU's and voila we have a workable solution.

Okay, get on the phone to Theresa May and Barnier then.

They've obviously missed something that you're privy to.

 

[Aituk7]

Okay, get on the phone to Theresa May and Barnier then.

They've obviously missed something that you're privy to.

I would mate but... effort innit

If may had half a back bone she'd have got better than this.

The reason why david davis left was because chequers was a f***ing shambles.

And nothings changed. I'd have rathered the ERG negotiated than her.

 

[WHD]

I would mate but... effort innit

If may had half a back bone she'd have got better than this.

The reason why david davis left was because chequers was a f***ing shambles.

And nothings changed. I'd have rathered the ERG negotiated than her.

If the ERG negotiated we would have no deal at all.

I don't agree, we couldn't have got a "better deal" without compromising the good Friday agreement. We're going round in circles here so I suggest we leave it there.

 

[Hep]

You will next be saying the so called thick ones shouldn't have a vote on anything,
dry your f***ing eyes pal.

never said that at all, and not really upset either. Just pointing out facts.

What evidence?

In my day kids got a general education and took exams. Target driven schooling means kids are now taught to get the best results in exams only. Teaching methods and technology have also greatly improved. Kids might get better results but that doesn't make them brighter, it means the goal posts have moved.

IQ type tests are readily available on the net, if people get better results in IQ test it could be down to practice. IQ tests were done with pen and paper 35 years ago and no practice was available.

My mates have worked for Nissan for over 25 years and have see loads of young kids through the doors. They said the standard of apprentices and line staff has dropped significantly over the last few years. How do you explain that? It's basically green kids who spend hours in front of laptops and gaming machines. Kids are a lot less practical these days simply because the don't get their hands dirty as much as we did. It's a completely different era.

There is masses of research to demonstrate people who are educated longer have higher IQ's as a result.

An IQ is not a measurement of natural ability but both natural ability, problem solving and knowledge. Therefore it is surely obvious if you spend an extra 3 years gaining more knowledge that will increase your IQ. Research suggests +3pts for each year.

 

[Aituk7]

If the ERG negotiated we would have no deal at all.

I don't agree, we couldn't have got a "better deal" without compromising the good Friday agreement. We're going round in circles here so I suggest we leave it there.

We always go around in circles. I dunno why you expected any different

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