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Elephant said:
Twitter is great for arguments. I've noticed a few cracks appearing in the mags support. Rafa can do no wrong/Rafa is too defensive, shouting at shops is the answer/shouting at shops is a waste of time etc.
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Definitely cracks appearing, the rafaerites are definitely being challenged more, and when challenged the defenders are increasingly saying I get your point.
Divide and conquer :)
 
mr chuckles said:
He's a very pragmatic manager he will go long with the ball wait for his counter attacks. He will just sit back wait for the counter and set pieces.

Wasnt that the way allardyce had the mags set up, yet the mags didn't take to him for that style of football.

Now why was that, football fans are very fickle
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Oh look, another Mag thread, what a coincidence :D
 
Allardyce is not an underrated manager, he is an under achiever, just like Bruce and Pullis.
No matter how much money he has had he has won nothing and got one Uefa cup place for Bolton.

Moyes is almost as bad but got Everton into the qualifying rounds of the Champions League as well as the UEFA cup.

At least Big Sam gave us hope.
 
Biffo The Bear said:
Basically this.

Tim Sherwood was part of the analysis team yesterday. His comments regarding the Everton game were spot on. Essentially he was asking why Dyche was still at Burnley, whilst foreign managers get the sexier jobs at the bigger clubs. He asked why would Everton appoint Koeman over Dyche. Said he was sick of hearing foreign managers praised with little basis whilst English managers are roundly ignored.
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It's bollocks though.

Look at the absolute dross that got gigs over the last few years almost entirely due to their britishness and supposed familiarity with the league. Lambert, Pardiola, Maclaren, Hughes, Monk, Moyes, Shakespeare, Phelan, Sherwood himself :D , Irvine, Adams, Pulis, Adkins...

I would argue that the biggest hindrance to young English managers getting jobs is the glut of absolute wankers above who have largely been circling the drain at the bottom of the PL and ruining clubs in the interests of bumping up their bank balance. Think of all the good championship managers who are never considered for jobs they could do, because teams opt for the 'safe pair of hands' who 'knows the league' and countless other cliches.

That stops younger British managers progressing beyond the Championship unless, like Howe or Dyche, they can get to the PL. And yes, I think they would both be in play for a top half job at some point.

Paul Lambert got a premier league job in the last 12 months, rendering his entire point complete bollocks. Let's be honest, Tim Sherwood started his managerial career at a top 6 club and within 3 years he had laid the groundwork for Villa to be relegated, before relegating Swindon to league 2 as DOF.

The man is a charlatan.
 
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TicoTorres said:
f***ing hell man - you can’t mention the two managers in the same breath. One has won cups everywhere he has gone - the other is a “survival specialist” (closely followed by borderline ruin when he departs a la Redknapp)
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Have you ever looked closely at Benitez's transfer record and the millions he's wasted.

The only reason he's not left his former clubs in an equal financial mess as Redknapp has is that they had deeper pockets!
 
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