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Ridiculous after he gave up red ball cricket
He was treated shabbily in the past, and he’s probably our best spinner (albeit Leach would have something to say)
I think it’s a poor decision
Interesting to see Porter there
I think it’s a poor decision
Interesting to see Porter there
GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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An insult to county cricket, but hardly a shock is it?
Mackem DJ
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Hideous.
If they’re eligible yes.
The ecb also have to promote county cricket for the long term good of the england team
GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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How do we know if he's the best red ball spin bowler available?
He’s obviously eligible as he’s been picked.
If you can bowl leg spin with good control in ODIs when the batsman are coming at you for full 10 overs then I’m sure he can do the same in test arena.
Eligible was probably the wrong word
The difference between the two formats is that in tests they can wait for bad balls, in one dayers they have to attack him
Because it's quite clear that he is the best spin bowler. White ball or red ball, it's still 22 yards away, it's still a bowler v a batsman. Too much is being made of him not playing "red ball cricket"
In tests he can settle in more though as batsman won’t be coming at him from ball one.
His control has been excellent and that is the key for any leg spin bowler.
Put it this way bowling really well in ODIs against world class batsman impresses me far more than if he was purely playing red ball cricket and mopping up in the county game.
I rate him as a spinner, and think he hasn’t had great opportunities
I just don’t like the selection. But I see your argument
GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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Sends out the wrong message in my opinion but hey ho
Absolutely indefensible
There aren’t any better options man. I’m pleased he’s been picked.
He’s not good enough
He’s averaged over 40 on spinning pitches
Too many bad balls. Too easy to play
Pretty shameful by Smith and Taylor
Also where has Ali come from ?
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I don't go for this "wrong message " nonsense - if County Cricket is so important then why do the centrally contracted players rarely play for their counties? How many times has Cook opened for Essex in the CC in the last 10 years? If it's more than a couple of games a Season I'd be amazed. Same for Anderson, Root, Broad etc
That’s totally different. It’s obvious why it’s different, they’re playing for England instead!
Not always. There are plenty of games where the ECB don't make them available. The point I'm making is that the best England players aren't playing CC so why should it matter if they pick a proven player based on his white ball performances? I'm actually glad they've done it because in the past, it would have been the typically stubborn and bureaucratic decision not to pick hin despite is excellent form
Steak Pie
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Not really surprised.
Cook has played 6 out of their 8 games so far this season. The batsmen are pretty much always available when they aren't on England duty while the bowlers have their workloads managed more closely. But even then, Stuart Broad has played 5 games for Notts, and Joe Root has played 3 CC games despite being involved in all 3 forms for England.
So you couldn't really be more wrong, and it's plain stupid to compare that to someone who has effectively retired from the sport.
Cook has played 6 out of their 8 games so far this season. The batsmen are pretty much always available when they aren't on England duty while the bowlers have their workloads managed more closely. But even then, Stuart Broad has played 5 games for Notts, and Joe Root has played 3 CC games despite being involved in all 3 forms for England.
So you couldn't really be more wrong, and it's plain stupid to compare that to someone who has effectively retired from the sport.
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