Rafa

[Ashley In!!]

You must have some standard of football if you think scoring six goals in a game isn't contributing.



If it was there it looks like it's been roundly criticised anyway so not sure what your point is?

The point would be that I imagine all the posts doing it and sharing people's details have been deleted surely? And those criticising it remain?

 

[mogget]

Quite staggering to see the basic concept of how a business operates, being written off as not worth talking about.
Laughable in fact.

I like that you are trying to talk down to people but you are clueless

 

[Bladecat]

Times chance

You all loved Short a few years ago

I never felt the need to ask my MP to raise Shorts behaviour in parliament...nor did i threaten to stop going to games if Allardyce went

Looking forward to the day Rafa goes for the meltdown.

 

[Benjamin]

Of course he is a good manager.
It's entertaining how you lot refuse to see any wrong in him at all.
Bad thing happens =ashley oot.
Good thing happens = rafa is God.

Nothing seems to wind mags up more than fans of lowly sunderland daring to criticise your darling rafa.

Couple of facts that mags refuse to accept:
Ashley runs your club well.
Ashley has given you a good manager and backed him.

The same way Sunderland fans refuse to accept Short did a good job and ran you well? It was only about two years ago he stopped spending fortunes every year just to keep you up.

 

[Sima]

The point would be that I imagine all the posts doing it and sharing people's details have been deleted surely? And those criticising it remain?

When was it? Those two posts near to where you have linked are pretty close together time-wise. Not as if there is a massive gap like you see on here when there is a mass deletion. There's no quoting of said posts either, also like you see on here from time to time.

 

[reginald_molehusband]

Hi Reggie - I hope you are well. Its usually because net spend is used as a default for Rafa's disciples. People fully understand the concept of net spend but also understand there is context. When you were relegated for example you brought in 60 million for Sissoko and Wijnaldum who hadn't really contributed in your relegation season with the former often getting slagged off. Rafa was still left with some exceptional players for championship standard and spend around 80 million on top of that meaning the net spend wasn't as high as say Huddersfield and Brighton. However those clubs didn't have the likes of Lascelles, Shelvey, MBemba, Mitrovic, Colback, Perez and others already in their ranks.

He spent about 55M and brought 85M in. For that he had to replace over half the squad.....as we got back up, it was money well spent as I'm sure you'd agree.

 

[What A Waster]

Mad how we are still forensically examining the 15/16 and 16/17 seasons for Newcastle United on here. Always new ways of interpreting the same information. Anything to make Benitez look bad Ashley look good.
Anything contrary to what NUFC fans think.
We disliked Pardew? Almost deified on here, performances at Palace and West Brom ignored. We like Benitez? Fat fraud. Dislike Ashley? Should be grateful to have him.
Want our team to try to do better the following year? Deluded. Should be grateful to just be in the Premier League.

 

[Sima]

He spent about 55M and brought 85M in. For that he had to replace over half the squad.....as we got back up, it was money well spent as I'm sure you'd agree.

Clearly Chris Hughton, who built his squad up over a period of three years and tactically also built a mentality over that time while retaining most of his key players in the process is far superior to Rafa Benitez who had to overhaul his entire squad within three months and instill his mentality during a relegation battle and the summer (about six months).

The two achievements are nowhere near comparable.

 

[Ashley In!!]

When was it? Those two posts near to where you have linked are pretty close together time-wise. Not as if there is a massive gap like you see on here when there is a mass deletion. There's no quoting of said posts either, also like you see on here from time to time.

No idea, pretty clear what's gone on I'd say though. Maybe those two have simply been missed in the cull. Absolutely no surprise that you're defending it though I have to say.

 

[Sima]

Mad how we are still forensically examining the 15/16 and 16/17 seasons for Newcastle United on here. Always new ways of interpreting the same information. Anything to make Benitez look bad Ashley look good.
Anything contrary to what NUFC fans think.
We disliked Pardew? Almost deified on here, performances at Palace and West Brom ignored. We like Benitez? Fat fraud. Dislike Ashley? Should be grateful to have him.
Want our team to try to do better the following year? Deluded. Should be grateful to just be in the Premier League.

I've never seen anything like the same level of detail for Sunderland between August 2015-May 2018 on here as you get for Newcastle.

 

[What A Waster]

Clearly Chris Hughton, who built his squad up over a period of three years and tactically also built a mentality over that time while retaining most of his key players in the process is far superior to Rafa Benitez who had to overhaul his entire squad within three months and instill his mentality during a relegation battle and the summer (about six months).

The two achievements are nowhere near comparable.

Especially difficult for a bloke who didn't "know the division" so he would've found it doubly hard.

 

[kingmonkey]

The same way Sunderland fans refuse to accept Short did a good job and ran you well? It was only about two years ago he stopped spending fortunes every year just to keep you up.

Almost.
Grateful for his financial support.
Staggered by his appointments in the running of the club.
Pissed off he lost interest and left us to rot (unlike Ashley)
Then grateful to him for sorting the debt.

Mixed bag from short, history would have loomed at him kindly if he hadn't left us to rot last year.

 

[Pukka pad]

Of course he is a good manager.
It's entertaining how you lot refuse to see any wrong in him at all.
Bad thing happens =ashley oot.
Good thing happens = rafa is God.

Nothing seems to wind mags up more than fans of lowly sunderland daring to criticise your darling rafa.

Couple of facts that mags refuse to accept:
Ashley runs your club well.
Ashley has given you a good manager and backed him.

Benitez gets his rag bag champo misfits to 10th last season, bags a shit load and spends......well what would you think he should to build on that given the fees for players, in the real world what would you kind of expect him to spend? Ermmm minimum £30m given we are in need of a striker at the absolute least, is that a deluded amount?

We have spent £7.5m on fees , and only done that as money has come in from sales.

Hardly saying to Benitez we believe in you is it? Ive said it before he doesnt learn that trying to stand still and do it on the cheap is gambling and will catch up with you. Never mind it doesnt sink in with yous and the boring abuse yous spout tells me everything. Round in circles this thread goes, tara.

 

[kingmonkey]

Benitez gets his rag bag champo misfits to 10th last season, bags a shit load and spends......well what would you think he should to build on that given the fees for players, in the real world what would you kind of expect him to spend? Ermmm minimum £30m given we are in need of a striker at the absolute least, is that a deluded amount?

We have spent £7.5m on fees , and only done that as money has come in from sales.

Hardly saying to Benitez we believe in you is it? Ive said it before he doesnt learn that trying to stand still and do it on the cheap is gambling and will catch up with you. Never mind it doesnt sink in with yous and the boring abuse yous spout tells me everything. Round in circles this thread goes, tara.

U ok hun? Xx

 

[Sima]

No idea, pretty clear what's gone on I'd say though. Maybe those two have simply been missed in the cull. Absolutely no surprise that you're defending it though I have to say.

Is it? Seems to be you that's just saying it (the posts were made yesterday and you've only linked to it tonight. Would it have really been up for 24 hours if it was as severe as you think?). It also reads like the whole criticism is about contacting David Craig.

It's also a bit flakey how it's suddenly been between 8pm and 8:50pm tonight when it was brought to your attention but has stayed in place for 26 hours before that.

Aye, but it's definitely iron clad what you are saying.

Especially difficult for a bloke who didn't "know the division" so he would've found it doubly hard.

We'd have finished higher than 10th last season if we'd appointed Nigel Pearson in summer 2016 like the sages on here suggested tbf. He'd have probably nutted Ashley too. Win win.

 

[Qwerty]

The Mags are happy with Benitez, we're happy with JR. So we're both happy but some on both sides deride the other side for being happy. Love school holidays.

 

[What A Waster]

Is it? Seems to be you that's just saying it (the posts were made yesterday and you've only linked to it tonight. Would it have really been up for 24 hours if it was as severe as you think?). It also reads like the whole criticism is about contacting David Craig.

It's also a bit flakey how it's suddenly been between 8pm and 8:50pm tonight when it was brought to your attention but has stayed in place for 26 hours before that.

Aye, but it's definitely iron clad what you are saying.



We'd have finished higher than 10th last season if we'd appointed Nigel Pearson in summer 2016 like the sages on here suggested tbf. He'd have probably nutted Ashley too. Win win.

Nigel Pearson, the man who nearly got a team relegated who were good enough to win the title with only a couple of additions.

 

[Ashley In!!]

Is it? Seems to be you that's just saying it (the posts were made yesterday and you've only linked to it tonight. Would it have really been up for 24 hours if it was as severe as you think?). It also reads like the whole criticism is about contacting David Craig.

It's also a bit flakey how it's suddenly been between 8pm and 8:50pm tonight when it was brought to your attention but has stayed in place for 26 hours before that.

Aye, but it's definitely iron clad what you are saying.



We'd have finished higher than 10th last season if we'd appointed Nigel Pearson in summer 2016 like the sages on here suggested tbf. He'd have probably nutted Ashley too. Win win.

Eh? Who mentioned it being up for 24 hours? I said I'd seen those posts I linked when reading through the thread after it was linked on here about an hour ago.

I'd also say it's likely you know exactly what has gone on given that you seem to post on there too.

 

[Sima]

Eh? Who mentioned it being up for 24 hours? I said I'd seen those posts I linked when reading through the thread after it was linked on here about an hour ago.

I'd also say it's likely you know exactly what has gone on given that you seem to post on there too.

When did you notice those posts? An hour ago? The criticism you linked to (which now reads for contacting David Craig) has been up since before 6pm yesterday.

It seems weird that if they are as bad as you suggest they wouldn't have been pulled immediately but over a day later. It's a very tightly run forum and very self-moderating.

 

[Pukka pad]

The Mags are happy with Benitez, we're happy with JR. So we're both happy but some on both sides deride the other side for being happy. Love school holidays.

Aye...its tedious as fuck.im done

Ive lost track.Sima seems to be talking to himself, till i realised he isnt.