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MP takes on Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley over his 'exploitation' of the club

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What A Waster said:
Yes he can do what he wants, does that mean fans just accept it?
Why would Sunderland fans criticise Short when he can do what he wants? Blackpool fans and Oyston, Charlton fans, Villa fans and Lerner, Villa fans and Ellis, Liverpool and Hicks and Gillette, Sunderland and Murray, Man City and Peter Swales, Leeds and Ridsdale, Blackburn and the Venkys, Portsmouth a procession of shite owners....

Just because they own it doesn't mean fans have to accept it. Fans just want what they think is best for their club
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But the rhetoric over and over again is he’s running the club in to the ground. How?

I could understand the feeling and the protests if he was actually running it in to the ground.
 
Blyth said:
But the rhetoric over and over again is he’s running the club in to the ground. How?

I could understand the feeling and the protests if he was actually running it in to the ground.
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To me, this recent hysteria stems from Rafas quotes. If he said he’s happy with the squad the mags would probably be happy. Coming out and saying they are in a relegation battle before a ball has been kicked has caused mayhem. He’s doing a Moyes and protecting himself. He’s got the mags eating out of his hands.

Whatever happens Ashley will always be the villain. I noticed Rafa never complained about his huge salary (even in the championship) when moaning about money.
 
Secret Visage said:
But Ashley doesn't back Rafa, remember.

Set of self entitled a*seholes, not all of their supporters, but a fair chunk of them.

Imagine if they'd sunk as far as we have.
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It's unimaginable their precious city which they adore would have been refuced to rubble as it seems to bear the brunt of their angst

Wansbeck Viking said:
To me, this recent hysteria stems from Rafas quotes. If he said he’s happy with the squad the mags would probably be happy. Coming out and saying they are in a relegation battle before a ball has been kicked has caused mayhem. He’s doing a Moyes and protecting himself. He’s got the mags eating out of his hands.

Whatever happens Ashley will always be the villain. I noticed Rafa never complained about his huge salary (even in the championship) when moaning about money.
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Spot on ^ but they are so thick they can't see he is taking them for just as big a ride
 
Mackemansj1 said:
Bournemouth West Ham etc have had more seasons on the gravy train in the past few seasons. Didnt you’s spend more than those two the past few seasons?. Yous we’re one of the highest spenders the other season in all of Europe no?.

I’m sure yous will spend money this season, West Ham have owners that are willing to put the club in debt with there spending and have just had a win fall of a free stadium and a big influx of cash that brung. The outrage ower Ashley you must admit it’s overblown man, a portion of your fan base acts like he’s the worst owner of any football club ever.
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Were they spending £100m and we £50m I'd take your point. West Ham have spent £114m and we've spent... £4m, for a 'keeper. West Ham have sold one player for £1.7m, we've sold 2 first team squad players for £20m. I won't go into Net spend for fear of the fury that some will lurch into.

Which window were Newcastle one of the top spenders in all of Europe? Summer 15/16 was our biggest transfer expenditure recently and we weren't even in the top 5 of the Premier League.

Every fanbase will fight their own battles. We've all seen the shit Arsenal fans got for wanting shot of Wenger. There'll be fanbases who'd have swapped places with you under Short in a heartbeat, but you wanted him gone. There's fans of clubs who'd casually look at our situation and declare they'd love to be a Premier League club with a good manager and what not. Were they to look a little harder they'd see that Benitez will justifiably walk if he's not appropriately backed (as he was assured he would be), that the club is a relegation candidate already, that once Benitez goes it's likely Ashley will appoint a clown like Kinnear.

Would a Blackburn fan want to swap one shithead owner for another? Probably not.

Ashley In!! said:
How much did you lose last year and who funded that?
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Whose niggardly approach cost us our Premier League position in the first place? Even if you credit Ashley for loaning the club some money, he didn't fund the purchases of players, that came from player sales.

I know it's the done thing on here to paint Ashley as the victim, but you're the only fanbase that does it.
 
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The Fish said:
Were they spending £100m and we £50m I'd take your point. West Ham have spent £114m and we've spent... £4m, for a 'keeper. West Ham have sold one player for £1.7m, we've sold 2 first team squad players for £20m. I won't go into Net spend for fear of the fury that some will lurch into.

Which window were Newcastle one of the top spenders in all of Europe? Summer 15/16 was our biggest transfer expenditure recently and we weren't even in the top 5 of the Premier League.

Every fanbase will fight their own battles. We've all seen the shit Arsenal fans got for wanting shot of Wenger. There'll be fanbases who'd have swapped places with you under Short in a heartbeat, but you wanted him gone. There's fans of clubs who'd casually look at our situation and declare they'd love to be a Premier League club with a good manager and what not. Were they to look a little harder they'd see that Benitez will justifiably walk if he's not appropriately backed (as he was assured he would be), that the club is a relegation candidate already, that once Benitez goes it's likely Ashley will appoint a clown like Kinnear.

Would a Blackburn fan want to swap one shithead owner for another? Probably not.


Whose niggardly approach cost us our Premier League position in the first place? Even if you credit Ashley for loaning the club some money, he didn't fund the purchases of players, that came from player sales.

I know it's the done thing on here to paint Ashley as the victim, but you're the only fanbase that does it.
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Probably because we know more about the situation with us being your rivals. He's no where near as bad as you suggest. Had you not been promoted back to the PL and then finished 10th, I could actually understand where you're coming from. Does he actually get any credit for the Benitez appointment?
 
Blyth said:
You go on like you’ve won multiple leagues in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s like Liverpool and are thinking you should be competing up there.
FFS you had a good run for a few year but you have won fuck all for years man. 60 odd in fact.
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:lol:

Ambition doesn't mean title challenge. For all but 3 or four clubs the title may as well be mythical. But playing good football is attainable, as is consistently getting a top half finish. Trying to win a cup is attainable. To do the above, you need investment. Which is what we see every season from other clubs. Bournemouth are trying to finish as high as possible and their owner is backing Howe to make that easier. So are the Dildo Twins. So are the uber-dodgy Wolves owners.
 
The Fish said:
Whose niggardly approach cost us our Premier League position in the first place? Even if you credit Ashley for loaning the club some money, he didn't fund the purchases of players, that came from player sale
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Came from player sales which is down to how the business has been run which is down to Ashley.

He saved your club...
 
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:lol: The funny thing is, they actually believe this shit. 10th place not good enough. Were they complaining when he bought Shelvey and Townsend? Or when he reinvested £50 plus million in the championship? They're a bunch of nutters. They're only happy when they're unhappy.
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Some on this site are just as bad. We are just 4 months down the road from near financial oblivion. Some are already advocating we bid 'whatever it takes' and living beyond our means
 
chunkylover53 said:
What has he done that is so wrong? He isn’t about to bankrupt you because of spending beyond your means like so many clubs

I get you want him to spend more, but he’s displaying financial prudence.
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Forbes has us as around the 21st richest club on the planet. We have a decent sponsor deal, we consistently bring in decent sums in the transfer windows, we're benefiting from the vulgar tv deals.

We're patently not spending without our means, we're not close to spending what we clearly could. Allowing Benitez to spend sums comparable to the rest of the Premier LEague would not risk financial rack and ruin.
 
The Fish said:
:lol:

Ambition doesn't mean title challenge. For all but 3 or four clubs the title may as well be mythical. But playing good football is attainable, as is consistently getting a top half finish. Trying to win a cup is attainable. To do the above, you need investment. Which is what we see every season from other clubs. Bournemouth are trying to finish as high as possible and their owner is backing Howe to make that easier. So are the Dildo Twins. So are the uber-dodgy Wolves owners.
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But that doesn’t mean it has anything to do with the government.

I’d love to buck Kelly Brook. But I’m not getting my MP to raise it in parliament, even tho it would be good for my morale

The Fish said:
Forbes has us as around the 21st richest club on the planet. We have a decent sponsor deal, we consistently bring in decent sums in the transfer windows, we're benefiting from the vulgar tv deals.

We're patently not spending without our means, we're not close to spending what we clearly could. Allowing Benitez to spend sums comparable to the rest of the Premier LEague would not risk financial rack and ruin.
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So? That’s got nothing to do with the government.

I get why you don’t like him. But that’s not the point
 
chunkylover53 said:
But that doesn’t mean it has anything to do with the government.

I’d love to buck Kelly Brook. But I’m not getting my MP to raise it in parliament, even tho it would be good for my morale


So? That’s got nothing to do with the government.

I get why you don’t like him. But that’s not the point
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It's sign your petition mate, you sign mine mate I'll bring it to parliament it's a disgrace I never get a nosh off Rita Ora
 
The Fish said:
Were they spending £100m and we £50m I'd take your point. West Ham have spent £114m and we've spent... £4m, for a 'keeper. West Ham have sold one player for £1.7m, we've sold 2 first team squad players for £20m. I won't go into Net spend for fear of the fury that some will lurch into.

Which window were Newcastle one of the top spenders in all of Europe? Summer 15/16 was our biggest transfer expenditure recently and we weren't even in the top 5 of the Premier League.

Every fanbase will fight their own battles. We've all seen the shit Arsenal fans got for wanting shot of Wenger. There'll be fanbases who'd have swapped places with you under Short in a heartbeat, but you wanted him gone. There's fans of clubs who'd casually look at our situation and declare they'd love to be a Premier League club with a good manager and what not. Were they to look a little harder they'd see that Benitez will justifiably walk if he's not appropriately backed (as he was assured he would be), that the club is a relegation candidate already, that once Benitez goes it's likely Ashley will appoint a clown like Kinnear.

Would a Blackburn fan want to swap one shithead owner for another? Probably not.


Whose niggardly approach cost us our Premier League position in the first place? Even if you credit Ashley for loaning the club some money, he didn't fund the purchases of players, that came from player sales.

I know it's the done thing on here to paint Ashley as the victim, but you're the only fanbase that does it.
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How did Ashley's niggardly approach cost you your Premier league place?

He gave McLaren £80m to spend then gave you a world class manager in Benitez. Yet you still went down.

Then he gave your world class manager money to get you promoted.

You fuckas should be grateful to big Mike.
 
Binxy said:
How did Ashley's niggardly approach cost you your Premier league place?

He gave McLaren £80m to spend then gave you a world class manager in Benitez. Yet you still went down.

Then he gave your world class manager money to get you promoted.

You fuckas should be grateful to big Mike.
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Nail on head.
 
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