Yet ANOTHER school shooting in America

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safcforever said:
It took me a couple of weeks to be able to buy a gun in Canada. I had to jump though hoops.
There’s loads of people with access to guns. The issue isn’t the access to the guns themselves.
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Strange that the countries with the strictest gun laws have the fewest gun related murders eh?

I agree the US has other problems but the availability of firearms is a huge contributory factor.

Meanwhile another load of American kids lie cold in the mortuary.
 
safcforever said:
It was only so hard because I’m not a citizen.
There’s millions of people in Canada with guns, as well as other countries. The access isn’t the issue
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other than it being a 'cultural' problem, if access isn't the problem, then what is?

the fact of the matter is, the USA has a major problem with guns, active shooters, massacres, whatever you want to call it. canada doesnt. america needs to deal with it, its their problem

for arguments sake, their are many countries with 'drug problems', yet say Holland, where the attitude and laws towards mild drugs are massively liberal, doesnt have such problems. thats not to say one country has it right or wrong, what it means is that each government needs to deal with the issues specific to its own country. america has a major problem with guns, it needs sorting. not pointing at Canada and Switzerland. gun control is the only way for them. going deeper into mental health issues and parenting and schooling etc.. is just fannying about without addressing the elephant in the room
 
tunstallhill said:
other than it being a 'cultural' problem, if access isn't the problem, then what is?

the fact of the matter is, the USA has a major problem with guns, active shooters, massacres, whatever you want to call it. canada doesnt. america needs to deal with it, its their problem

for arguments sake, their are many countries with 'drug problems', yet say Holland, where the attitude and laws towards mild drugs are massively liberal, doesnt have such problems. thats not to say one country has it right or wrong, what it means is that each government needs to deal with the issues specific to its own country. america has a major problem with guns, it needs sorting. not pointing at Canada and Switzerland. gun control is the only way for them. going deeper into mental health issues and parenting and schooling etc.. is just fannying about without addressing the elephant in the room
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The us needs to basically just copy the background checks, controls and restrictions that canada has tbh. It would cut their deaths exponentially.
 
Narraback said:
Strange that the countries with the strictest gun laws have the fewest gun related murders eh?

I agree the US has other problems but the availability of firearms is a huge contributory factor.

Meanwhile another load of American kids lie cold in the mortuary.
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There are deeper issues. The people that blame guns are so small minded.

The issue is education and responsibility. The person who owns the guns are the responsible ones. That’s where the NRA should be focusing

I have 2. My rifle is used for hunting, and the other is home security. The pistol never leaves my house and the rifle is always locked away when not being used.

GK said:
The us needs to basically just copy the background checks, controls and restrictions that canada has tbh. It would cut their deaths exponentially.
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Definitely this. The fact is guns are going nowhere.
So they need to focus on education and restrictions
 
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safcforever said:
There are deeper issues. The people that blame guns are so small minded.

The issue is education and responsibility. The person who owns the guns are the responsible ones. That’s where the NRA should be focusing

I have 2. My rifle is used for hunting, and the other is home security. The pistol never leaves my house and the rifle is always locked away when not being used.
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so what does canada, and every other sane country in the world, do on the issue of 'education and responsibility' that america isn't doing?

its bollocks mate
 
The US makes up less than 5% of the worlds population, yet they own 48% of the 650m civilian-owned guns in the world.
 
tunstallhill said:
so what does canada, and every other sane country in the world, do on the issue of 'education and responsibility' that america isn't doing?

its bollocks mate
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People are vetted properly.

I don’t know about other countries but I had to show where I’ll be securing them. I also had to take a firearms safety course. Being ex military that seemed like an attendance course, someone with no training would definitely benefit from it.

They should have tougher restrictions. The rules don’t seem to change at all after any shootings. Surely an investigation takes place and surely there should be tighter restrictions introduced afterwards
 
dangermows said:
@ProfessionalMackem



Obviously.
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Yes mate?

CissesUnderpants19 said:
@ProfessionalMackem when do these people learn that strict gun laws, prevent death ?
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US defo needs some stricter gun control. Unfortunately too many lobbyists will prevent them.

richyrich said:
I apologise for getting sweary at you earlier, Lambro. Physics is something close to my heart and it angers me when I see people spreading disinfo about it on the internet. Still, I went a little radgey. My bad.

It also seems that you have your heed burried in the sand when it comes to Alex Jones, which also angered me. If you want to make a pizzagate thread and tag me I'll be happy to share my knowledge on the subject. The anons on 4chan had researched and debunked almost everything that Alex Jones came out with 6 months before the mainstream news networks had even learned about it. The media only caught wind of it after some yokel decided to turn up to Comet Ping Pong with a gun and threaten Alefantis, by then the real story was done and dusted. That being said, I do believe there is a case to be made against not only Podesta, but also Hillary Clinton and various other WH officials. The Podesta "art" is far more interesting and worrying than even Alex Jones gave it credit for.
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That's why many CTs take what he says with a pinch of salt. Me included. Imo he does more harm to the movement than good. Like you say he tarred pizza gate with shit and even the "good" bits. It's almost as if he's a paid stooge to make CTs look daft.
 
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ProfessionalMackem said:
US defo needs some stricter gun control. Unfortunately too many lobbyists will prevent them.
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Which is true enough, which made we ask earlier, how many people have to die before they do something about it, or is it a case of one of the kids of the people at the NRA has to die for things to change in the United States, one thing is for sure, the yanks could learn a lot from the Australians, if you have ever heard the case of Martin John Bryant, because up until him, Australia didn't have gun laws today, because of what he did, they have them.

Martin John Bryant[1] (born 7 May 1967) is an Australian man who is known for murdering 35 people and injuring 23 others in the Port Arthur massacre, one of the world's deadliest shooting sprees, in Port Arthur, Tasmania, Australia between 28–29 April 1996. He is currently serving 35 life sentences plus 1,035 years without parole in Hobart's Risdon Prison.
 
CissesUnderpants19 said:
Which is true enough, which made we ask earlier, how many people have to die before they do something about it, or is it a case of one of the kids of the people at the NRA has to die for things to change in the United States, one thing is for sure, the yanks could learn a lot from the Australians, if you have ever heard the case of Martin John Bryant, because up until him, Australia didn't have gun laws today, because of what he did, they have them.

Martin John Bryant[1] (born 7 May 1967) is an Australian man who is known for murdering 35 people and injuring 23 others in the Port Arthur massacre, one of the world's deadliest shooting sprees, in Port Arthur, Tasmania, Australia between 28–29 April 1996. He is currently serving 35 life sentences plus 1,035 years without parole in Hobart's Risdon Prison.
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1,035 years without parole. Wonder if he gets back into crime when he’s out
 
tunstallhill said:
other than it being a 'cultural' problem, if access isn't the problem, then what is?

the fact of the matter is, the USA has a major problem with guns, active shooters, massacres, whatever you want to call it. canada doesnt. america needs to deal with it, its their problem

for arguments sake, their are many countries with 'drug problems', yet say Holland, where the attitude and laws towards mild drugs are massively liberal, doesnt have such problems. thats not to say one country has it right or wrong, what it means is that each government needs to deal with the issues specific to its own country. america has a major problem with guns, it needs sorting. not pointing at Canada and Switzerland. gun control is the only way for them. going deeper into mental health issues and parenting and schooling etc.. is just fannying about without addressing the elephant in the room
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They would just shoot the elephant
 
safcforever said:
There are deeper issues. The people that blame guns are so small minded.

The issue is education and responsibility. The person who owns the guns are the responsible ones. That’s where the NRA should be focusing

I have 2. My rifle is used for hunting, and the other is home security. The pistol never leaves my house and the rifle is always locked away when not being used.


Definitely this. The fact is guns are going nowhere.
So they need to focus on education and restrictions
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Most Americans want more checks and controls but the nra blocks them.

For example, they are sueing the state of Florida for introducing more controls after the mass shooting there.

NRA sues as Florida signs gun-control law

Absolutely despicable.

AB22 Easy Tiger said:
Is it possible to "cut..exponentially"? It's been a long time but I thought that was a growth curve.
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:lol:

We'd see an exponential growth of people not dying from gunshot

*cough*
 
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