Sugar Tax kicks in 6th April

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Frijj said:
Just the people whose health damaging behaviours affect us all

Let’s face it, education has failed. People know the dangers and just don’t care

Hit their pockets and they will...
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The problem offenders won’t change.

Having a kebab every now and again isn’t going to cause problems.
 
Pop said:
The problem offenders won’t change.

Having a kebab every now and again isn’t going to cause problems.
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You don’t know offenders won’t change. You suspect they won’t, and you might be right, but you can’t know unless you try.

I’ve never said an occasional kebab causes problems.
 
Frijj said:
You don’t know offenders won’t change. You suspect they won’t, and you might be right, but you can’t know unless you try.

I’ve never said an occasional kebab causes problems.
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You said you only wanted to tax the people whose health damaging behaviours effect us all.

I have an occasional kebab, drink cheap booze and smoke tabs occasionally.
 
Pop said:
You said you only wanted to tax the people whose health damaging behaviours effect us all.

I have an occasional kebab, drink cheap booze and smoke tabs occasionally.
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Occasional use, depending on the behaviour, isn’t always damaging.

Occasional tabs are though. I genuinely cannot wait until most people are priced out of them.
 
After the sugar tax comes in, I will stop buying coke and switch to other fizzy drinks whom have readjusted their recipes so they don't get caught in it.

I like fizzy drinks, the tax annoys me, but I recognize it is an opportunity for innovation. It is an opportunity for the soft drinks industry to find healthier and more sustainable ways of delivering the same products, then people can enjoy it in ways which are less personally (health wise) and financially penalizing. For example, Irn Bru have changed their recipe and cut sugar by 50%. I know the jocks went off it, but that is a good innovation because it avoids the sugar tax. I had a new recipe irn bru a few days ago, I couldn't tell the difference.

As for Coke, the sugar tax will render it a rip off in terms of value for money. The 500ml bottle will go up to a base price of £1.40 and they're actually shrinking the larger bottles again... down to 1.5 litres whilst the price also goes up. Given that 2l previously become 1.75l, it's just another excuse at shrinkflation here. Time to say goodbye to coke, if they can't adapt their product to the new market conditions than let them suffer.

So my point is? The sugar tax should be understood more as an incentive for the soft drinks industry to become healthier, than a strict punishment of ordinary people.
 
MrOompapa said:
After the sugar tax comes in, I will stop buying coke and switch to other fizzy drinks whom have readjusted their recipes so they don't get caught in it.

I like fizzy drinks, the tax annoys me, but I recognize it is an opportunity for innovation. It is an opportunity for the soft drinks industry to find healthier and more sustainable ways of delivering the same products, then people can enjoy it in ways which are less personally (health wise) and financially penalizing. For example, Irn Bru have changed their recipe and cut sugar by 50%. I know the jocks went off it, but that is a good innovation because it avoids the sugar tax. I had a new recipe irn bru a few days ago, I couldn't tell the difference.

As for Coke, the sugar tax will render it a rip off in terms of value for money. The 500ml bottle will go up to a base price of £1.40 and they're actually shrinking the larger bottles again... down to 1.5 litres whilst the price also goes up. Given that 2ml become 1.75, it's just another excuse at shrinkflation. Time to say goodbye to coke, if they can't adapt their product to the new market conditions than let them suffer.

So my point is? The sugar tax should be understood more as an incentive for the soft drinks industry to become healthier, than a strict punishment of ordinary people.
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As long as this happens I'm all for it.
 
monkeytassle said:
I can't. Can you describe what would happen?
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You clearly can. Anything brought in by labour would be something you would condemn immediately

Simple to see from your numerous posts on any political thread, you post on

Inbred predjudice

MrOompapa said:
After the sugar tax comes in, I will stop buying coke and switch to other fizzy drinks whom have readjusted their recipes so they don't get caught in it.

I like fizzy drinks, the tax annoys me, but I recognize it is an opportunity for innovation. It is an opportunity for the soft drinks industry to find healthier and more sustainable ways of delivering the same products, then people can enjoy it in ways which are less personally (health wise) and financially penalizing. For example, Irn Bru have changed their recipe and cut sugar by 50%. I know the jocks went off it, but that is a good innovation because it avoids the sugar tax. I had a new recipe irn bru a few days ago, I couldn't tell the difference.

As for Coke, the sugar tax will render it a rip off in terms of value for money. The 500ml bottle will go up to a base price of £1.40 and they're actually shrinking the larger bottles again... down to 1.5 litres whilst the price also goes up. Given that 2l previously become 1.75l, it's just another excuse at shrinkflation here. Time to say goodbye to coke, if they can't adapt their product to the new market conditions than let them suffer.

So my point is? The sugar tax should be understood more as an incentive for the soft drinks industry to become healthier, than a strict punishment of ordinary people.
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Canny justification if it makes you feel better
 
stephen cartwright said:
You clearly can. Anything brought in by labour would be something you would condemn immediately

Simple to see from your numerous posts on any political thread, you post on

Inbred predjudice


Canny justification if it makes you feel better
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Why don't you fuck off stephen. Do you not agree with taxing products that out an enormous strain on the health system?
 
MrOompapa said:
After the sugar tax comes in, I will stop buying coke and switch to other fizzy drinks whom have readjusted their recipes so they don't get caught in it.

I like fizzy drinks, the tax annoys me, but I recognize it is an opportunity for innovation. It is an opportunity for the soft drinks industry to find healthier and more sustainable ways of delivering the same products, then people can enjoy it in ways which are less personally (health wise) and financially penalizing. For example, Irn Bru have changed their recipe and cut sugar by 50%. I know the jocks went off it, but that is a good innovation because it avoids the sugar tax. I had a new recipe irn bru a few days ago, I couldn't tell the difference.

As for Coke, the sugar tax will render it a rip off in terms of value for money. The 500ml bottle will go up to a base price of £1.40 and they're actually shrinking the larger bottles again... down to 1.5 litres whilst the price also goes up. Given that 2l previously become 1.75l, it's just another excuse at shrinkflation here. Time to say goodbye to coke, if they can't adapt their product to the new market conditions than let them suffer.

So my point is? The sugar tax should be understood more as an incentive for the soft drinks industry to become healthier, than a strict punishment of ordinary people.
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It's Lucozade that concerns me.

It's always been a sports drink for extra energy. It also used to be marketing as a medicinal drink bought for when people were poorly and needed the sugar for extra energy as it was thought it would build you back up. (Glass bottle wrapped in cellophane from the chemist anyone?!) As a child, I can only remember having it after being poorly with things like tonsillitis and mumps as I wasn't eating solid food.

It's now a mainstream drink found with the normal fizzy drinks and in food to go chillers. I think people just pick it up and think of it as a drink and don't really realise how much sugar is actually in it.

Plus now we have things like Mountain Dew and Red Bull plus all it's competitor versions sold as mainstream pop when they are high in sugar too.
 
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