• The first stage of the forum upgrades has now been completed but they remain in a degraded state and are still being worked on. Normal posting/reading should now be possible.
    Please read this thread for more details.
    New user registrations are currently disabled.

Just looked at the League table

Status
Not open for further replies.

Fine margins. The good news has been nicking a few wins recently has kept us in touch and there is a large pack above us. The bad news is the alarming performances we have put in at home against the so called inferior teams in the division. We need to find a way to win a few home matches and we've not played a lot of the teams around us at home so those wins may need to come against the so called better sides.

A few decent signings will make all the difference. It really won't take much to see us safe. But we need to make those signings, get them right and those new players need to hit the ground running. I worry with our track record, the apathy of the owner, the lack of money, and in truth CC being out of club management for 6 years, whether we are going to get these key dealings right in the coming days. I guess we will find out soon enough!
 
I posted this on the Leeds forums just before Grayson was sacked.

You must be logged on to see external links


Grayson has gone now, Coleman may be good, he may be average, but he's not a joke.

Please stay positive for now and give Coleman and the club chance to recover from Grayson.
 
Is it sad? Aye there's not much to shout about or get behind in Sunderland these days.

Am I worried? Fuck no! there's more important things in life.
 
Sidewinder2 said:
Yes been told on here Coleman is a good manager and it was all Graysons fault.
Click to expand...

Grayson chose our signings, Coleman is working with Grayson's. Coleman also has suffered even more with players being unavailable through injury or being Rodwell

Grayson - 11 points in 17 games. 0.65 points per game. Over the season makes 30 points. Relegation form.

Coleman - 11 points in 9 games. 1.22 points per game. Over the season makes 56 points. Staying up form.

So it's clear to me whose fault it is.

But if Coleman continues his form for the remaining 20 games it would give us 46 points. Borderline - this has been enough in 3 out of the last 5 seasons, but not last season. I'm confident he will improve that form as time goes on. Breaking the home Voodoo was important.

The thing that worries me most is our injury situation. He needs some backing in the window to account for this. The financial situation means heavy backing is a pipe dream, but Short/Bain need to do something even if it's using loans and a modest percentage of any sales - Kone or NDong (who I'd like to see us keep).

Keep the faith.
 
Last edited:
Rossy31 said:
Is it sad? Aye there's not much to shout about or get behind in Sunderland these days.

Am I worried? Fuck no! there's more important things in life.
Click to expand...
Have to agree. I go to the match to support my team. Do I get pissed off, not really. Maybe for a few minutes after the final whistle.
 
Quillips said:
Grayson chose our signings, Coleman is working with Grayson's. Coleman also as suffered even more with players being unavailable through injury or being Rodwell

Grayson - 11 points in 17 games. 0.65 points per game. Over the season makes 30 points. Relegation form.

Coleman - 11 points in 9 games. 1.22 points per game. Over the season makes 56 points. Staying up form.

So it's clear to me whose fault it is.

But if Coleman continues his form for the remaining 20 games it would give us 46 points. Borderline - this has been enough in 3 out of the last 5 seasons, but not last season. I'm confident he will better this as time goes on. Breaking the home Voodoo was important.

The thing that worried me most is our injury situation. He needs some backing in the window to account for this. The financial situation means heavy backing is a pipe dream, but Short/Bain need to do something even if it's using loans and a modest percentage of any sales - Kone or NDong (who I'd like to see us keep).

Keep the faith.
Click to expand...

Exactly. Warnock got a load of stick at Leeds when he had to clear up Grayson's mess. Is he a poor manager?

People don't understand how truly awful Grayson is. They've no problem running Moyes down as totally useless, when he's got a very good track record, yet they blame mysterious problems for Grayson's struggles.
 
SuperKevsLeftBoot said:
Very worrying for both owner and fans.

Players don’t give a shit.
Click to expand...

Hard to not come away with that perspective after Monday's debacle.

Which, if true, what is coleman to do next??

He has to make them care.... and/or peddle the ones he can't turn.

Either way, a retooling a league below is well within the cards.

Let's hope it doesn't come with administration as well.
 
Sundered Land said:
I had a sharp intake of breath, and was immediately taken over by a feeling of impending doom about my club.
I have never felt this low in over 40 years of supporting Sunderland.
Before you give me comments about McMenemy years etc, even then, there was something there, not a lot but I didn’t feel like this!
I am deeply deeply worried like never before. I just can’t see a way out of this mess, from the top to the bottom of the club.
Is there a way back?
Click to expand...

I feel exactly the same.
 
The performance against Barnsley was terrible but if we keep picking up points in the same way that we have since Coleman took over we should be ok.
Still need to have a massive shake up in the club from top to bottom and I hope that Coleman is given enough support to do it.
 
Robanner said:
Fine margins. The good news has been nicking a few wins recently has kept us in touch and there is a large pack above us. The bad news is the alarming performances we have put in at home against the so called inferior teams in the division. We need to find a way to win a few home matches and we've not played a lot of the teams around us at home so those wins may need to come against the so called better sides.

A few decent signings will make all the difference. It really won't take much to see us safe. But we need to make those signings, get them right and those new players need to hit the ground running. I worry with our track record, the apathy of the owner, the lack of money, and in truth CC being out of club management for 6 years, whether we are going to get these key dealings right in the coming days. I guess we will find out soon enough!
Click to expand...
It’s going to take more than a few signings to turn that team around. We need at least 5 quality players to change anything is my opinion. We are SO bad. I fear the game may be up. Hope I’m wrong and Cookie can perform a miracle with the clueless fuckers.
 
Paul3845 said:
If we had beaten Barnsley we’d currently be 19th ... fine margins still with half a season left to go ... certainly not over yet.
Click to expand...
Reminds me of every time I talk Sunderland with one lad in particular. He's all if this, if that and I'm all but we didn't.
We argue like fuck over if. I'm all what happened and he's all if it happened.
 
BigPete said:
It's all down to Short in this window, if he backs us we will stay up if he doesn't then we will go down imo

Even with Coleman can't fault him we've improved since he came but you can't polish a shite. Need investment to improve multiple areas of our team or league one beckons :evil:
Click to expand...
Here you go Pete:

You must be logged on to see external links
 
Ellis Short has presided over a collapse of epic proportions. For all his strong words, his decision making has been utterly inept. The club stands on the brink of sinking back to its lowest ever level... despite its top class facilities and the huge outlay spent on players.

Somehow, he's recently recruited, as manager, a man with a strong CV. He has no choice - he HAS to once again find the money to improve the playing squad. He has to support the manager so that he can get much better players in QUICKLY.

The bloke has got off lightly so far. If we go down he should be tarred and feathered and thrown off the Wear bridge. This is his shambles and it is his responsibility to turn it around.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top