Pressure is our middle name. Up until Dour Dave, end of season pressure is what we did.
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Rafa. He's still not happy
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Pressure is our middle name. Up until Dour Dave, end of season pressure is what we did.
The Fish
Winger
No, but... balls to it, read the other posts where I addressed this willful misrepresentation.
Whilst we are not in a position to mock and gloat, at the same time all is not well and I can genuinely see Rafa leaving.
When the season had finished, a host of names were linked. Granted agents and media guessing and trying to force stories but a Benitez at his other clubs may have got a couple of them. At Newcastle he got non. The reason for this is either funds or lack of ambition
This list in comical and this from their own lot and explains why they get so much grief on here.
To see this list and to see who they have got, I can understand Benitez going but this is possibly his last chance as I cant see many clubs taking a gamble on him. Is it a case of stay or go?
When the season had finished, a host of names were linked. Granted agents and media guessing and trying to force stories but a Benitez at his other clubs may have got a couple of them. At Newcastle he got non. The reason for this is either funds or lack of ambition
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This list in comical and this from their own lot and explains why they get so much grief on here.
To see this list and to see who they have got, I can understand Benitez going but this is possibly his last chance as I cant see many clubs taking a gamble on him. Is it a case of stay or go?
Sir Tasker
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It has turned out to be some party for you....
More like a funeral. Relegation. Simon Grayson appointed. Not to many people attending the party, plenty of empty pink seats.
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Give over man ..... the entire discussion was about the present and the past.
Then, when it suits you, you pretend you were talking about some mythical point in the distant future.
You fucked up and slipped back into your 'deluded Toon Army, this is our rightful place' persona ...... now you're desperate to convince people it wasn't so.
You're not even convincing yourself
"Yes, but Newcastle aren't currently amongst the pantheon of the truly "big clubs". I'd say managing Barcelona, Real Madrid, Man Utd and so on is a bigger achievement."
We relegated your club, believe me it was a party
The Fish
Winger
You're quibbling over whether he's called "good" or "f***ing good" ? Good grief.
Thing is, should he keep us up, wherever we finish will be not impressive to some Sunderland fans on here. Say we finish comfortably on 42pts I predict the following excuses "he spent a fortune", "league was easier this season", "It's just momentum, all promoted champions have it", "they got lucky with injuries/fixtures/purple path". Benitez would get little if any credit. Just like last season's Championship title victory is being dismissed as "Limping to promotion", "Spent the most*", "pub league" etc.
It's daft man, he's clearly a very good manager and I guarantee he wouldn't get the criticism he does on here if he was bang average.
TradingPlaces
Winger
You will go to your grave knowing that Sunderland relegated Newcastle. I'd imagine that's pretty hard to accept, the mental scars will never leave you.
The Fish
Winger
I know what I was saying, you know what I was saying, and it's incredibly boring to claim that I was stating that Newcastle was a "truly big club", when it's clear to anyone without a tedious agenda that I wasn't.Give over man ..... the entire discussion was about the present and the past.
Then, when it suits you, you pretend you were talking about some mythical point in the distant future.
You fucked up and slipped back into your 'deluded Toon Army, this is our rightful place' persona ...... now you're desperate to convince people it wasn't so.
You're not even convincing yourself
"Yes, but Newcastle aren't currently amongst the pantheon of the truly "big clubs". I'd say managing Barcelona, Real Madrid, Man Utd and so on is a bigger achievement."
Swear to God if I said I think Newcastle is a nice city you'd try and claim I called New York a shitheap by comparison.
Given a straight choice is much rather have Grayson.
You're right about the funeral, though. Maybe we should have a mock funeral procession cos that's never been done before. Any idea where we might be able to find a coffin?
The Fish
Winger
Hang on, in a straight choice between Rafa Benitez and Simon Grayson, you'd rather have Grayson?Given a straight choice is much rather have Grayson.
You're right about the funeral, though. Maybe we should have a mock funeral procession cos that's never been done before. Any idea where we might be able to find a coffin?
Some choice. A manager who is going places or a manager who has been places?
Yup I'll go for the former.
SAFC_ABZ
Winger
I would in our present situation yes because he's used to working with a dogshit budget where as Rafa isn't.
We're f***ing skint man
The Fish
Winger
Sorry, I'm having a hard time processing this. In a straight choice between Rafa Benitez
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You'd choose the latter?
The Hesford Diet
Striker
Possibly the only time 'straight choice' and 'Grayson' has ever appeared in the same sentence. All we need now is a hint of playing at 'Camp' Nou and we will truly be back to BBC1, Saturday night, 1975.
The Fish
Winger
Well we'll see how he does this season without an eye raising budget. I'm sure he'll be applauded for his ability should we stay up despite spending a fairly modest sum.I would in our present situation yes because he's used to working with a dogshit budget where as Rafa isn't.
We're f***ing skint man
fwiwi I think Grayson is a good appointment for you at the minute, but I don't think he'll be able to get you back up in the next couple of seasons and so will likely be replaced.
SAFC_ABZ
Winger
Grayson being appointed smacks to me of budget squeezes and ship steadying, can't disagree with that. My only worry is being down and staying down - plenty of big clubs have sunk never to return, Blackburn are in league one ffs!
Leeds being a perennial championship side is fabulous however
Binxy
Striker
100 million beans in just over a year is not a modest sum. Graysons spent 1.25 mil man.
Zinedine Kilbane
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Given a straight choice is much rather have Grayson.
You're right about the funeral, though. Maybe we should have a mock funeral procession cos that's never been done before. Any idea where we might be able to find a coffin?
Put down the glue son
cluffy
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