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Adam Johnson appeal

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UTW said:
Why? McCormack, Hughes and Alonso all committed far worse crimes and continued
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That's subjective. Sexually motivated crimes against children are always seen in a poor light. It would be a very very brave club that would give him a job
 
Sumdumgi said:
He'll be on the sex offenders register so he will find it difficult to play football anywhere. He may even find certain countries will not allow him to go there on holiday never mind settle for work. His football career over imho. So saying Graham Rix managed to work as a coach and manager after spending a year in jail for having sex with a teenager - including getting his job back at Chelsea. Amazing when he committed the offence against the sister of a youth player he was responsible for as coach.
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he will struggle to get entry into the US ever again
 
UTW said:
Getting behind the wheel of a car after drinking is as good as it being pre meditated.
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It's not though is it or else you could say that if you get into a fight with a stranger while drunk and your victim dies as a result it's murder.
 
Sima said:
It's not though is it or else you could say that if you get into a fight with a stranger while drunk and your victim dies as a result it's murder.
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Not the same thing at all. Drink driving is absolutely vile, even if no one gets hurt it is a vile act and far worse than what Johnson did
 
chunkylover53 said:
That's not the same thing at all
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Why not? I'd say that while under the influence of alcohol McCormick, Hughes or Alonso didn't get into the car with the intention of killing someone just as someone who gets into a drunken fight with a stranger has no intention of killing them should that happen.

UTW said:
Not the same thing at all. Drink driving is absolutely vile, even if no one gets hurt it is a vile act and far worse than what Johnson did
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I'm not getting into ranking crimes but my point was that those crimes weren't premeditated whereas Johnson's was.
 
Sima said:
Why not? I'd say that while under the influence of alcohol McCormick, Hughes or Alonso didn't get into the car with the intention of killing someone just as someone who gets into a drunken fight with a stranger has no intention of killing them should that happen.



I'm not getting into ranking crimes but my point was that those crimes weren't premeditated whereas Johnson's was.
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So what? If someone nicks a jelly from the pick and mix it's pre meditated but hardly as bad as killing someone by drink driving.

Christ he must have really hurt yous bad for you to be defending drink driving killers
 
UTW said:
So what? If someone nicks a jelly from the pick and mix it's pre meditated but hardly as bad as killing someone by drink driving.

Christ he must have really hurt yous bad for you to be defending drink driving killers
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Again, I'm not ranking the crimes, merely saying that one was premeditated whereas the others weren't.

I am in no way defending those that kill by drink driving either, it's a bit silly for you to take that from my comments on here.

FIVE said:
Drink driving worse than a paedo?.....
Bollox
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Aye, you know when you go out on the drink and you are still probably over the limit in the morning when you get in your car? You're worse than a child abuser.

Mental stance to take.
 
Sima said:
Aye, you know when you go out on the drink and you are still probably over the limit in the morning when you get in your car? You're worse than a child abuser.

Mental stance to take.
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McCormack was on his way back from a session at a wedding you weirdo.
 
UTW said:
McCormack was on his way back from a session at a wedding you weirdo.
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I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the thousands of occurrences all over the country where someone has woken up after a night out on the drink in the morning and driven their car.

You're saying those people are worse than child abusers.
 
Sima said:
I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the thousands of occurrences all over the country where someone has woken up after a night out on the drink in the morning and driven their car.

You're saying those people are worse than child abusers.
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No. I said Luke McCormack, Marcos Alonso and Lee Hughes are worse than Adam Johnson

I said anyone who drink drives is vile
 
UTW said:
No. I said Luke McCormack, Marcos Alonso and Lee Hughes are worse than Adam Johnson

I said anyone who drink drives is vile
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You said this

Drink driving is absolutely vile, even if no one gets hurt it is a vile act and far worse than what Johnson did
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You didn't isolate McCormack, Alonso and Hughes. You went on to specifically say even if no-one gets hurt it's worse than what Johnson did.

Seems like anyone in my scenario is worse than a child abuser in your eyes.
 
Sima said:
You said this



You didn't isolate McCormack, Alonso and Hughes. You went on to specifically say even if no-one gets hurt it's worse than what Johnson did.

Seems like anyone in my scenario is worse than a child abuser in your eyes.
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It is worse than what Johnson did.

Are you too thick to realise there is different levels of each crime. Your category of "child abusers" would include Adam Johnson and Ian Watkins. There's a clear difference
 
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