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19/11/16 - 5pm - Protest at the Murray Gates

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haway said:
Time to tell Short that he needs to go. I think all of us are sad that it has come to this but it's becoming increasingly clear that he's mismanaged the club to the point where relegation isn't our biggest worry - financial solvency is.

We've been through it all before but he's repeatedly left managers feeling their hands are tied and has made awful decisions that leave us in a perilous position.

Protesting may not help - but it's about time he hears the frustration of the support. It could well result in him acting - he wants rid of the club and is holding out for a higher price. Action might result in him dropping that price enough to get the sale through so we can rebuild for next year.

Let's keep it outside the stadium - the last things the players need is a hostile atmosphere when they're presumably low on confidence as it is, but I for one do not want to sit on my hands until the end of the season, knowing all that we do now about the mismanagement of the club, having done nothing.

The fans are the one real thing that matter to me about this club, and I'm sick of us being misled and manipulated by an owner who clearly has no interest anymore in our success.
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Go wash the gravy stains out of your slazenger tee shirt you sad maggie twat :rolleyes:
 
Sister Ray said:
The managers thing doesn't wash with me. There were no mass objections at the time. Even PDC was well received by fans after keeping us up.

Di Fanti, yes I concede that but he was doing what we need to do - trimming down cost by wheeling and dealing - he just made an arse of it

And not backing managers properly is utter horse shit I'm afraid. There are clubs with far more money than us spending far less than us



Nope
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Di Canio was very unpopular before he was appointed. What happened was he got the job, all the fascism stuff came up, and our fans went into siege mentality and defended him. But look back at the threads on here before he got the job and most people thought his record at Swindon of pissing people off was very concerning.
 
haway said:
Di Canio was very unpopular before he was appointed. What happened was he got the job, all the fascism stuff came up, and our fans went into siege mentality and defended him. But look back at the threads on here before he got the job and most people thought his record at Swindon of pissing people off was very concerning.
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Nah. Not buying that I'm afraid
 
WHD said:
Allardyce for one. Sacking Bruce is another.

MON was one we were all in favour of at the time, so we can't hold that against him either.
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You surely still don't think this do you? f***ing hell nobody has come remotely close to finishing tenth since we came back up either before or since. His net expenditure was decent and not once were we in bottom 3 while he was here.
Of all the sackings he's made you choose this one to use to pat short on back!
It was a poor sacking at time and now with benefit of hindsight a ridiculous one.
 
TradingPlaces said:
Byrne, Di Canio, De Fanti and Congerton just for starters. All horrific decisions.
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wasn't Byrne already at the club and promoted to ceo after the other fella left. she was apparently very well thought within the football cicles but she didn't half make a pigs ear out of the AJ incident. PDC was a strange one, but would have suspected the lambasting we got over that. yet when he goes back to west ham he is a hero in the press.
 
spoony said:
Remember this from years ago "We want Murray out, we want Murray out..."
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i seem to remember that it was a protest movement by sunderland fans at the time. sorry like i could be making a mistake as we don't protest as its mag like etc... ;)
 
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Sister Ray said:
Can you give us specific examples of what you hold him accountable for?

I reckon his employment of Maggie is debatable. Can't be blamed for managers cos they were all well received at the time. Even Bruce.



We absolutely hammered the mags all those times Ashley, Lambeezy and Rafa penned letters etc IIRC.

Deep down half our fans are absolutely desperate to be mags IMHO
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The mags protests came from far less than we have had to endure.
 
soapster said:
wasn't Byrne already at the club and promoted to ceo after the other fella left. she was apparently very well thought within the football cicles but she didn't half make a pigs ear out of the AJ incident. PDC was a strange one, but would have suspected the lambasting we got over that. yet when he goes back to west ham he is a hero in the press.
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I didn't want PDC, and thought the fascism stuff was pretty poor, but the main reason he was a terrible appointment was his managerial record alone - and the way he alienated people at Swindon.
 
WiseOldMan said:
Here lies the problem, the fans are so attached to Ellis Short they don't want to stand up against him, I know people on here are just a small minority of the Sunderland supporters but when they are against standing upto Short then that tells you everything, they are happy enough to carry on as we are. Short is looking to sell up so he doesn't want to put more money into the club which I can understand but it is him that has let this happen over the years you can't get away from that.
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Most seem against short but don't want to protest tbf .
 
Mrjardine said:
You surely still don't think this do you? f***ing hell nobody has come remotely close to finishing tenth since we came back up either before or since. His net expenditure was decent and not once were we in bottom 3 while he was here.
Of all the sackings he's made you choose this one to use to pat short on back!
It was a poor sacking at time and now with benefit of hindsight a ridiculous one.
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the football was terrible after a while with bruce. I think like a lot of managers, they do well for 2 or 3 years and then it falls away.
 
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