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Jermaine Defoe - Poorest signing in recent memory

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GOLDENOLDIE said:
He quietly gets on with what we pay him to do----score goals.

Whether he starts or comes off the bench is irrelevant,he works, and with the class that made him one of the premiers most dangerous players in his prime, finds a way to put the ball in the net. Sheer tenacity got him his goal last night. Great goal Jermain, well done, you fully deserved it for not giving up.

All this palaver about finding out where to put him is rubbish. Simple, play 4-4-2---.Him and Fletch are working well together, and we now know we CAN play 4-4-2 and get results. Im invigorated, I foresee days when him and Fletch cause havoc at times now that our defence have shown they CAN cope with 4-4-2.

There's also the bonus that most Prem defences are set up to cope with the usual lone striker, 4-4-2 is unsettling for them
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Except we played 5-3-2 last night not 4-4-2. I agree with the two up front part though.
 
Morny said:
Controversial view, but his signing has been a disaster.

Not so much as a player: despite being four years past his (pretty average) best, he's still our best goalscorer and an alright player.

But he turned Poyet's grinding, but solid, team into a complete shambles as Gus fannied about trying to find a way to accommodate him in the side. Convinced if he hadn't signed, we would have ground out a dull survival, Poyet would still be manager and we'd be moving on with a actual philosophy and at least trying to play good football.

Even after Poyet, Advocaat was at a complete loss how to us him, and now Allardyce his.

He's on unspeakable wages, until he's about 63, and three managers in a row have basically admitted there's no way to fit him into our side.

A genuinely, catastrophically awful signing, which we didn't need and didn't fit, which is the biggest shambles of the whole Congerton era of awfulness.
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Give over
 
I would caution against falling in love with the little Cockney, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Sam showed him the door in January.
 
Feed the Monster said:
is this one of those bump threads where we all ridicule a genuine opinion of a poster with the benefit of 20:20 hindsight?
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Nope. It's ridiculing a poster who hasn't got a f***ing clue. Defoe is a fantastic signing and someone who would/will get us goals. Anyone who knows anything about football and his past would know that.

The games he doesn't play in we tend to do sweet fuck all in. He is one of those players that gives us something different upfront (and by god we f***ing need it). He is one of those players that just gets goals, much like Bent was. We can be pummelled all game and then this fella can nick one from nothing. We need to keep him in the team.
 
Feed the Monster said:
is this one of those bump threads where we all ridicule a genuine opinion of a poster with the benefit of 20:20 hindsight?
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When you re-read the OP it wasn't a very good argument, especially considering some of our other recent purchases.

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But he turned Poyet's grinding, but solid, team into a complete shambles as Gus fannied about trying to find a way to accommodate him in the side. Convinced if he hadn't signed, we would have ground out a dull survival, Poyet would still be manager and we'd be moving on with a actual philosophy and at least trying to play good football.

Even after Poyet, Advocaat was at a complete loss how to us him, and now Allardyce his.

He's on unspeakable wages, until he's about 63, and three managers in a row have basically admitted there's no way to fit him into our side.

A genuinely, catastrophically awful signing, which we didn't need and didn't fit, which is the biggest shambles of the whole Congerton era of awfulness.

No mention of the important goals that he's scored, his workrate when often on the left wing, or that he is in fact a very decent footballer despite his age.
 
Stevie Freestein II said:
When you re-read the OP it wasn't a very good argument, especially considering some of our other recent purchases.

E.g.

But he turned Poyet's grinding, but solid, team into a complete shambles as Gus fannied about trying to find a way to accommodate him in the side. Convinced if he hadn't signed, we would have ground out a dull survival, Poyet would still be manager and we'd be moving on with a actual philosophy and at least trying to play good football.

Even after Poyet, Advocaat was at a complete loss how to us him, and now Allardyce his.

He's on unspeakable wages, until he's about 63, and three managers in a row have basically admitted there's no way to fit him into our side.

A genuinely, catastrophically awful signing, which we didn't need and didn't fit, which is the biggest shambles of the whole Congerton era of awfulness.

No mention of the important goals that he's scored, his workrate when often on the left wing, or that he is in fact a very decent footballer despite his age.
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He was almost a fullback for us in that vital win at Everton when he scored a goal off his arse, when he missed last night I predicted he would get another chance and score, that's what he does, could you say that about Jozy or Danny I would suggest not.
 
Giddup Sausage! said:
Nope. It's ridiculing a poster who hasn't got a f***ing clue. Defoe is a fantastic signing and someone who would/will get us goals. Anyone who knows anything about football and his past would know that.

The games he doesn't play in we tend to do sweet fuck all in. He is one of those players that gives us something different upfront (and by god we f***ing need it). He is one of those players that just gets goals, much like Bent was. We can be pummelled all game and then this fella can nick one from nothing. We need to keep him in the team.
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This. Amazing what having a striker who actually f***ing moves does for the midfield isn't it? He's different class. First name on the team sheet for me and I don't care if I have to shoehorn him in to unnatural positions for him or weird formations for us. He simply needs to be on the pitch.
 
HutchSafc said:
Considering we swapped him for 2 in 70 Jozy Altidore he's been an incredible signing.
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Jermain Defoe was brought in to do a job: don't be Jozy Altidore. He has done that job perfectly.
Its not JD's fault we had to pay high wages for him to be not Jozy Altidore.

Dappa said:
I'll just leave this here.

He's been a better signing than Borini
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I'm still expecting Borini to be a good signing, and regular member of our matchday squad for years. Not sure why that didn't happen last night. I reckon Sam Allardyce will get the best out of him soon enough.
Defoe is fine for now, especially in this form.
 
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DJM said:
Jermain Defoe was brought in to do a job: don't be Jozy Altidore. He has done that job perfectly.
Its not JD's fault we had to pay high wages for him to be not Jozy Altidore.


I'm still expecting Borini to be a good signing, and regular member of our matchday squad for years. Not sure why that didn't happen last night. I reckon Sam Allardyce will get the best out of him soon enough.
Defoe is fine for now, especially in this form.
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Yes I do as well mate, different player completely but the OP said signings so I thought I'd throw him in.
Defoe has done well for us and will always be remembered for his strike against the scum. Worth a fortune that.
 
Stevie Freestein II said:
He's on unspeakable wages, until he's about 63.
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This is a big sticking point to some of our fans, who just cannot get over it. Much like "weeeyy Gordon wuz like 9 million punnddds like marra hinny so shud be catchun everything".

You would think these fuckers are all chipping in for his wages from their pay cheque every month.

Yes, it's crazy wages for our club. But it's wages we have to pay at the moment to get players of the calibre of Defoe. We could have a few more 4 Danny Grahams/Altidores upfront if they would prefer, and they still wouldn't do half the work Defoe does, nevermind score anywhere near the amount of goals.
 
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