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Jermaine Defoe - Poorest signing in recent memory

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29 games 10 goals

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Alfa said:
Utterly bizarre suggestion. Was a major factor in us winning the last two derbies. We don't have another player at the club capable of scoring as regularly as he can or capable of scoring the goal he scored at Everton last week. If Hazard, Sterling or Rooney had scored that it would be fawned over.
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The one that took a slight but crucial deflection? He hit it well but you're going a bit overboard there marra.

MrOompapa said:
29 games 10 goals

1/3
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How many starts?
 
chris_dunn59 said:
The one that took a slight but crucial deflection? He hit it well but you're going a bit overboard there marra.


How many starts?
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I think he was referring to the touch and the knock over the defenders head before the shot. It was impressive like. Probably is going over the top like.
 
Morny said:
Controversial view, but his signing has been a disaster.

Not so much as a player: despite being four years past his (pretty average) best, he's still our best goalscorer and an alright player.

But he turned Poyet's grinding, but solid, team into a complete shambles as Gus fannied about trying to find a way to accommodate him in the side. Convinced if he hadn't signed, we would have ground out a dull survival, Poyet would still be manager and we'd be moving on with a actual philosophy and at least trying to play good football.

Even after Poyet, Advocaat was at a complete loss how to us him, and now Allardyce his.

He's on unspeakable wages, until he's about 63, and three managers in a row have basically admitted there's no way to fit him into our side.

A genuinely, catastrophically awful signing, which we didn't need and didn't fit, which is the biggest shambles of the whole Congerton era of awfulness.
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I certainly agree that he made poyets system fall apart. I believe he got enough draws and made us hard enough to beat for us to go down. Defoe made him change his system etc and we just crumbled
 
I'm a Defoe supporter and believe he should be starting 11 every week but there's nowt worse than people bumping threads when they get a sniff of authentication. Especially when he pounced on a mistake. OP is wrong but also makes some decent points imho.
 
Morny said:
Not really. He doesn't fit into a side in modern football, certainly not one with as weak a defence and midfield as us.
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Yea forward scoring goals, wins 3 points....wot a fookin plum

Doctor Diesel said:
I'm a Defoe supporter and believe he should be starting 11 every week but there's nowt worse than people bumping threads when they get a sniff of authentication. Especially when he pounced on a mistake. OP is wrong but also makes some decent points imho.
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He Posted utter nappy wringing fookin drivel
 
Morny said:
Controversial view, but his signing has been a disaster.

Not so much as a player: despite being four years past his (pretty average) best, he's still our best goalscorer and an alright player.

But he turned Poyet's grinding, but solid, team into a complete shambles as Gus fannied about trying to find a way to accommodate him in the side. Convinced if he hadn't signed, we would have ground out a dull survival, Poyet would still be manager and we'd be moving on with a actual philosophy and at least trying to play good football.

Even after Poyet, Advocaat was at a complete loss how to us him, and now Allardyce his.

He's on unspeakable wages, until he's about 63, and three managers in a row have basically admitted there's no way to fit him into our side.

A genuinely, catastrophically awful signing, which we didn't need and didn't fit, which is the biggest shambles of the whole Congerton era of awfulness.
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He quietly gets on with what we pay him to do----score goals.

Whether he starts or comes off the bench is irrelevant,he works, and with the class that made him one of the premiers most dangerous players in his prime, finds a way to put the ball in the net. Sheer tenacity got him his goal last night. Great goal Jermain, well done, you fully deserved it for not giving up.

All this palaver about finding out where to put him is rubbish. Simple, play 4-4-2---.Him and Fletch are working well together, and we now know we CAN play 4-4-2 and get results. Im invigorated, I foresee days when him and Fletch cause havoc at times now that our defence have shown they CAN cope with 4-4-2.

There's also the bonus that most Prem defences are set up to cope with the usual lone striker, 4-4-2 is unsettling for them
 
I was vocal last year when he was getting stick. His record has been decent here from day one. Far better than other attacking players. That's all I want to be honest. His movements in the final third are far better than anyone we have. If others have better decision making we would score more. PVA last night for example, just had to role it across to Defoe who was in a class portion. That's what he gives you, good attacking awareness in the final third. It is not teachable IMO.
 
Ive said it already Defoe would be in my starting 11 every week. We had all this with Bent! People criticising his game this is why he should play, he scores goals thats why he should play and thats why he gets paid big money.
 
HAS to start every game, whether thats with Fletcher or on his own. Some people were actually up for selling him in January because they didn't think he fits in. Absolute madness.
 
Wierd Valley Mackem said:
Ive said it already Defoe would be in my starting 11 every week. We had all this with Bent! People criticising his game this is why he should play, he scores goals thats why he should play and thats why he gets paid big money.
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There was none of that with Bent, he fit into our team perfectly. The problem is, by and large we've been poor with him in the side. I've already conceded the thread title was ott, and that I think Defoe's a canny player.

By point was that we've had three mangers struggling to find a way toto get him into the team without disrupting the balance of the side. Hopefully Allardyce has found it now.
 
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