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Thanks - it is just hard to see someone struggling.



No - female, her husband has nothing to be worried about :) Our sons have been best friends since first school that is how I met her.
Ah I werent taking the piss just unsure of the situation.FWIW My advice would be to keep on encouraging her to get out and about
 

You sound like a great friend who's there for her. Depression can also take also take its toll on friends and family. We can't help but want those we care about to be fine, and it makes us sad and anxious when they're not.

There's lots of resources out there for friends and family, e.g. from Mind.

My take on your friend is that she has grief for the child that never appeared, and anxiety about a major life change coming her way when her role as a mum inevitably lessens as her son grows up. Both of these are huge issues and only she can resolve them. It sounds like she's had proper treatment and this is continuing. A common treatment for major life issue-driven depression is talking therapies so that the individual can vocalise all their sadness, grief, anger and anxiety, and by doing that begin to get a hold on it. Once that starts, nature does its miraculous healing thing and the individual comes to be a little more at peace with the sad event, and eventually to see a future which might not be the one that was planned, but which is bearable and even, possibly, enjoyable.

The above describes my own experience of reactive depression. Friends and family are important support through this, but ultimately the hard work, the actual curing, is done by the individual and their therapist.

However the fact your friend was hospitalised with depression for 4 months suggests a different kind of case, and one that's outside my ken.

I know when I was in the throes of mine, I wouldn't have been up for concerts and spa days, but I was up for getting out for an hour or so. I remember a friend took me to the pub for a drink. We had one, we were there only about an hour, and then I wanted to go home. She felt she had failed but in fact that single hour had been absolutely wonderful - yes, it was all I could cope with at the time, but it was brilliant to be in a different place, hearing her chat, enjoying the buzz of the pub. I reassured her that she'd done me a huge favour, and we made it a more regular thing. Your friend will know what she enjoys (and there will be stuff she enjoys). You can ask her to find out what that is, but sometimes just listen really, really carefully to what she's saying. E.g. she may be talking about something she did and you'll notice that she gets animated and happy while talking about it. Whatever that thing was - cooking, building an airfix model, window shopping, walking in the park - register it and maybe suggest something similar in due course.

In answer to your second question, if you look back through this thread there's loads of people talking about their experience of how they got through it: drugs, talking therapies, exercise (of limited value in my case but many on here highly rate it), relaxation techniques (I personally can't rate mindfulness highly enough), making lifestyle changes etc.

Hope this helps. Feel free to PM me.

Thanks for that.

My friend has a very comfortable life (supporting husband, healthy & intelligent son, financially comfortable, no pressures of work,etc.) but this thread / board has helped me as someone watching from the sidelines. It has given me a greater understanding of depression and an appreciation that people have different mental thresholds.

I do have my moments when I do think she needs to "snap out of it" but I know it is not quite as simple as that and as I have said this board has been insightful and I am quite staggered by how many people on this board who are suffering from this debilitating condition.

It is just hard to see someone suffering and I thought when she was discharged from hospital we would see a big improvement (probably was a little bit over optimistic) but it is a case of 1 step forward, 2 steps back. It is going to take longer than I thought for her to come to terms with her issues.

I will read the link you sent me and good luck with your own issues.
 
Since I have known her, she has always been a stay at home mum with her husband supporting her. She has one child, who is now a teenager and has told me that now that he is growing up she does not see what her role in life is any more, coupled with the fact that she can not stop thinking about the second child (girl?) she wanted, but never had.

Others are right about baby steps. A quick drink somewhere is a lot easier to handle that a spa day, although I know your intentions were for the best so don't feel bad for offering. Even just a walk somewhere might help.

Picked up on the bit above. If she is up to it, maybe voluntary work would help? She could try an odd couple of hours in a charity shop/helping out in a school (assuming she will pass a DBS check)/helping out in an animal sanctuary etc. That might help her find the role she is looking for.

Or has she any craft skills? I've got a few Mam friends on Facebook who've made home businesses out of crafty stuff like one crochets and knits things, another makes things on a sewing machine, another bakes and decorates cakes and one who does domestic cleaning and ironing. It's all done from home and fits in around their families. Or any other hobbies/skills she could turn into a business?

If it's not the right time to try it now, it's always ideas she can think about for the future. Good for you for looking after her and trying to help. Friends who stick by you are worth their weight in gold.
 
My ex contacting me on Saturday night. And hasn't stopped since even though she is still with the fella she cheated on me with . She has pretty much admitted she had made a mistake and misses me . But I've told her it's all a bit late now . You've made your bed and I'm trying to move on

I'm glad life isn't as rosy for her as it's easier for me to deal with. But it's put me back into a bit of depression. My enthusiasm is not what it was last week, though I am still dragging my arse to the gym ( on way there now)

I can't understand why she would contact me now . The split ended up costing me my job and forced me back to live at home with my parents til I get back on my feet. I'm 32 and living with my parents that for me is very hard to take . Though I am grateful to them

It's f***ing angered me to be honest . All the shit she has caused and now she decides to drop back into my life and mess with my head again.
 
My ex contacting me on Saturday night. And hasn't stopped since even though she is still with the fella she cheated on me with . She has pretty much admitted she had made a mistake and misses me . But I've told her it's all a bit late now . You've made your bed and I'm trying to move on

I'm glad life isn't as rosy for her as it's easier for me to deal with. But it's put me back into a bit of depression. My enthusiasm is not what it was last week, though I am still dragging my arse to the gym ( on way there now)

I can't understand why she would contact me now . The split ended up costing me my job and forced me back to live at home with my parents til I get back on my feet. I'm 32 and living with my parents that for me is very hard to take . Though I am grateful to them

It's f***ing angered me to be honest . All the shit she has caused and now she decides to drop back into my life and mess with my head again.
Cut all contact. Give yourself time and space and put yourself first.
 
Agree with cutting all contact. You've done so well to get this far without her. Don't let her get in your way.
 
My ex contacting me on Saturday night. And hasn't stopped since even though she is still with the fella she cheated on me with . She has pretty much admitted she had made a mistake and misses me . But I've told her it's all a bit late now . You've made your bed and I'm trying to move on

I'm glad life isn't as rosy for her as it's easier for me to deal with. But it's put me back into a bit of depression. My enthusiasm is not what it was last week, though I am still dragging my arse to the gym ( on way there now)

I can't understand why she would contact me now . The split ended up costing me my job and forced me back to live at home with my parents til I get back on my feet. I'm 32 and living with my parents that for me is very hard to take . Though I am grateful to them

It's f***ing angered me to be honest . All the shit she has caused and now she decides to drop back into my life and mess with my head again.
I'm not detracting from what your illness is, but please take some comfort, if you can, that situation you have just posted would make most people without depression pretty well pissed off. And rightly so! It no doubts is making things worse but sometimes things can even if you are a well person. It's ok to be angry or fed up with a situation, it's the not getting out of that situation that's not good.
 
I'm not detracting from what your illness is, but please take some comfort, if you can, that situation you have just posted would make most people without depression pretty well pissed off. And rightly so! It no doubts is making things worse but sometimes things can even if you are a well person. It's ok to be angry or fed up with a situation, it's the not getting out of that situation that's not good.
agreed mate . I just can't get over the cheek of her. The funny thing is she is still with him but clearly not happy but she calls me to test the water and see if things can change between us. And if not she will stick with the other fucker.

What a sneaky bastard .

Agree with the girls on this one matey. Keep well clear and give it time
I will do thanks mate . Feel better after 3 hours in the gym and pool. Heads clearer and the sun is out . That'll do for me today

She made her choice, marra. Don't let her mess up the improvement you've made so far.
I've done to much hard work in the gym to let her ruin things again I've just got to ignore her now . 2 stone 4lb lost in 5 weeks so that's a big positive for me.
 
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I went to the doctors with my dad the other day, needed to talk about a few things one of them being about his mood. It's got worse over the past few weeks.

Talked about his other stuff and when I mentioned his depression she told us we had ran out of time. f***ing ran out of time, I was incensed.

We did eventually make time after I let her know my feelings! If I wasn't there she'd of just sent him away. Absolutely disgusting behaviour.

The moral of this little tale is, take someone with you to the doctors if you are comfortable with this to get a second perspective on things and to ask the questions you may not ask yourself.
 
I went to the doctors with my dad the other day, needed to talk about a few things one of them being about his mood. It's got worse over the past few weeks.

Talked about his other stuff and when I mentioned his depression she told us we had ran out of time. f***ing ran out of time, I was incensed.

We did eventually make time after I let her know my feelings! If I wasn't there she'd of just sent him away. Absolutely disgusting behaviour.

The moral of this little tale is, take someone with you to the doctors if you are comfortable with this to get a second perspective on things and to ask the questions you may not ask yourself.
i had this the other week mate. Book double appointments if possible . I came out of there in a worse mood . The fella was an obnoxious fucker with it.
 
I couldn't believe it.

You still brushing the ex off? It sounds like it's for the best.

The gym going well?
If I got back with her I'd be the biggest mug arse on the planet mate. So it's a definite no . I'm not going to lie I've tried hating her but I can't I still have feelings for her but I moved down there once and got shit on by her. I won't let that happen again . Some other twat is sleeping in the bed I bought watching my tele nah that's all a bit much for me like.

The gym is going well mate. Good little health club full of blues who are sound and my fitness is improving all the time . Im putting the hours in and it's paying off .

Thanks for asking
 
I went to the doctors with my dad the other day, needed to talk about a few things one of them being about his mood. It's got worse over the past few weeks.

Talked about his other stuff and when I mentioned his depression she told us we had ran out of time. f***ing ran out of time, I was incensed.

We did eventually make time after I let her know my feelings! If I wasn't there she'd of just sent him away. Absolutely disgusting behaviour.

The moral of this little tale is, take someone with you to the doctors if you are comfortable with this to get a second perspective on things and to ask the questions you may not ask yourself.
Also book a double appointment.
 
If I got back with her I'd be the biggest mug arse on the planet mate. So it's a definite no . I'm not going to lie I've tried hating her but I can't I still have feelings for her but I moved down there once and got shit on by her. I won't let that happen again . Some other twat is sleeping in the bed I bought watching my tele nah that's all a bit much for me like.

The gym is going well mate. Good little health club full of blues who are sound and my fitness is improving all the time . Im putting the hours in and it's paying off .

Thanks for asking
Don't let no ex take you out of a positive zone, after making yourself drag yourself out of a negative zone, which she caused. You don't have to hate. It's way way better for yourself not to, but if it's karma/ want her to know what a cock up she made, then you just carry on with your life, smiling and been happy.
Trust me, nothing pisses someone off more/makes them realise they screwed up, more than seeing an ex looking better, happier etc than when you were with her
 
I went to the doctors with my dad the other day, needed to talk about a few things one of them being about his mood. It's got worse over the past few weeks.

Talked about his other stuff and when I mentioned his depression she told us we had ran out of time. f***ing ran out of time, I was incensed.

We did eventually make time after I let her know my feelings! If I wasn't there she'd of just sent him away. Absolutely disgusting behaviour.

The moral of this little tale is, take someone with you to the doctors if you are comfortable with this to get a second perspective on things and to ask the questions you may not ask yourself.

You can't get an appointment for people with depression..? :lol:
 
Not sure whether this is the right place to say it, but I suffer with both anxiety and depression.

I've had anxiety on and off for nine years since I turned 21. It's gone from GAD to Health Anxiety back to GAD and now OCD which is the worst thing I've been through yet. It isn't a form of traditional OCD, it's intrusive thoughts of a horrific nature which I can't seem to shake off.

Because of the nature and length of the condition I've suffered with severe depression too. I'm currently seeing an NHS IAPT service which isn't really helping out. The homework I've been given hasn't helped one bit. Fortunately I have an understanding boss and relatively comfortable life so have been able to continue living.

I don't really know why I'm posting this, but if it helps others to know there's people out there who suffer from the same, then I'm glad I did.
 
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