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Lil Layne
Striker
They've stuck 3 black blokes in a black preacher gimmick. It's horrendous watching them, put aside the fact Big E isn't very good and there's no way forward for them.
Haha! You've been krispen ward!
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ShieldsBlackCat
Guest
Must admit having compared to two for some time I prefer NXT over RAW as even I have seen elements of lameness in Monday Night RAW. That said it is still a helluva lot better than Impact! Wrestling. RAW at least has a high production value. They can get A-List celebrities and the pyrotechnics look amazing. And however lame the matches the characters in the WWE look more impressive than TNA talent. But RAW is now in 3rd place behind NXT and The Monday Night War.
Joe-B
Striker
Takeover was phenomenal from top to bottom. Slightly disappointed with the turn at the end, thought they would have waited a bit longer to pull the trigger on that and let Sami have his moment.
Isn't that something you used to slate them for and that Impact was more wrestling based and loved them for it?
Isn't that something you used to slate them for and that Impact was more wrestling based and loved them for it?
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ShieldsBlackCat
Guest
Just finished watching it on XMBC. Even the NXT Women's Championship match was well worked. Sad that Adrian Neville has lost the title but I like Sami also.
Re: Kevin's heel turn (I didn't even know he was a face till the crowd reaction to his entrance), I think a sudden and shock turn of events like that does better for the reaction and shock factor than waiting a week till Sami Zayn cuts a promo about how wonderful it is to win the title and have Kevin Owens run to the ring and beat him up. You expect it because it has been done before. Last night nobody could have predicted it. Everyone is carried away with celebrating Zayn's title win and suddenly out of nowhere Owen's seemingly helping his mate up the ramp beats him up and powerbombs him on the ring apron. Brilliant. I can't wait for next week.
You have a point. But in this context it is being used to point out what the WWE has and that all the bashing about how lame it is, isn't totally deserved. OK it hasn't been edge-of-the-seat nail-biting. It has been average lately. But tt has a bit more about it than TNA does. The budget for the production value just about stretches to a packet of balloons and a few sparklers left over from Bonfire Night held by people on work experience. They are a very poor and hard-up company that is making cuts left, right and center. Be thankful at least the WWE isn't in their position.
ChrisAshley
Striker
Annoying thing is with NxT it's what the main show should be like, I think there's only something like 3 writers on NXT as opposed to about 30 for RAW and then a 69 year old man will completely redo them scripts too, it's about the wrestling not 'Sports entertainment'. Say what you like about Triple H but he's putting out a better product than Vince and clearly knows how to make a good show, sooner he's in charge the better.
Joe-B
Striker
I was expecting Owens to turn on him to be honest, I had a feeling of when and not if so I guess they just got it out of the way because anyone who knew of Kevin Steen and El Generico knew they were best friends in real life, hoping they can replicate their feud from ROH which is probably one of the very best ever.
Tman87
Winger
Gonna have to look up this NXT show, sounds like a good one. The way they are building it is rather like if RoH about 4-5 years back had WWEs production/money, which I have no complaints with
Regal post Takeover:Revolution. Still amongst the best at delivering a promo.
Regal post Takeover:Revolution. Still amongst the best at delivering a promo.
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Joe-B
Striker
Reptilia
Heaven Branch
Urgh.
I thought it was amazing personally, instantly pushes Steen into the title picture and one one of the biggest shocks I've seen in a long time. Made me feel like a kid again watching it when it turns/debut's used to totally shock me.
ChrisAshley
Striker
Ambrose on Jerichos podcast "We've gone in, like the three of us, and protested everything. If we don't like something, we were like terrors to them because it's going to be 'oh god, The Shield's not going to like this' and then two seconds later we're in the office, 'uh, yeah, we don't like this.' Not that we're like jerks but, you know.
"They wanted us to, I think it was like our second or third pay-per-view, it was like right before our first WrestleMania, it was like a six-man on a pay-per-view, the finish was Cena over with the schmutz. And we're like, as soon as we go down to John, we're just like everybody else because that's what he does to everybody else.
There will be a time where we'll do that all day and that's fine but it's not today. Otherwise, why are we even here? We went into that pay-per-view like 'we're not doing it,' more or less. We didn't have to because there was enough people on our side, and it was brought up, but it was one of those things where, like, we were always on the same side, one-for-all, all-for-one. If we didn't like something it would be like 'nope, not happening' because there are three of us and it's hard to gang up on all three of us. So we would gang up on people to get our way, kind of thing."
Also says how Punk told them some backstage are jealous and aren't gonna sell, so Dean says the three of them then went out and made them sell by wrestling stiff.
"They wanted us to, I think it was like our second or third pay-per-view, it was like right before our first WrestleMania, it was like a six-man on a pay-per-view, the finish was Cena over with the schmutz. And we're like, as soon as we go down to John, we're just like everybody else because that's what he does to everybody else.
There will be a time where we'll do that all day and that's fine but it's not today. Otherwise, why are we even here? We went into that pay-per-view like 'we're not doing it,' more or less. We didn't have to because there was enough people on our side, and it was brought up, but it was one of those things where, like, we were always on the same side, one-for-all, all-for-one. If we didn't like something it would be like 'nope, not happening' because there are three of us and it's hard to gang up on all three of us. So we would gang up on people to get our way, kind of thing."
Also says how Punk told them some backstage are jealous and aren't gonna sell, so Dean says the three of them then went out and made them sell by wrestling stiff.
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Deleted member 24609
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Ambrose on Jerichos podcast "We've gone in, like the three of us, and protested everything. If we don't like something, we were like terrors to them because it's going to be 'oh god, The Shield's not going to like this' and then two seconds later we're in the office, 'uh, yeah, we don't like this.' Not that we're like jerks but, you know.
"They wanted us to, I think it was like our second or third pay-per-view, it was like right before our first WrestleMania, it was like a six-man on a pay-per-view, the finish was Cena over with the schmutz. And we're like, as soon as we go down to John, we're just like everybody else because that's what he does to everybody else.
There will be a time where we'll do that all day and that's fine but it's not today. Otherwise, why are we even here? We went into that pay-per-view like 'we're not doing it,' more or less. We didn't have to because there was enough people on our side, and it was brought up, but it was one of those things where, like, we were always on the same side, one-for-all, all-for-one. If we didn't like something it would be like 'nope, not happening' because there are three of us and it's hard to gang up on all three of us. So we would gang up on people to get our way, kind of thing."
Also says how Punk told them some backstage are jealous and aren't gonna sell, so Dean says the three of them then went out and made them sell by wrestling stiff.
Best podcast by Jericho so far for me. Wish it had gone on for another hour.
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Deleted member 31333
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Ambrose on Jerichos podcast "We've gone in, like the three of us, and protested everything. If we don't like something, we were like terrors to them because it's going to be 'oh god, The Shield's not going to like this' and then two seconds later we're in the office, 'uh, yeah, we don't like this.' Not that we're like jerks but, you know.
"They wanted us to, I think it was like our second or third pay-per-view, it was like right before our first WrestleMania, it was like a six-man on a pay-per-view, the finish was Cena over with the schmutz. And we're like, as soon as we go down to John, we're just like everybody else because that's what he does to everybody else.
There will be a time where we'll do that all day and that's fine but it's not today. Otherwise, why are we even here? We went into that pay-per-view like 'we're not doing it,' more or less. We didn't have to because there was enough people on our side, and it was brought up, but it was one of those things where, like, we were always on the same side, one-for-all, all-for-one. If we didn't like something it would be like 'nope, not happening' because there are three of us and it's hard to gang up on all three of us. So we would gang up on people to get our way, kind of thing."
Also says how Punk told them some backstage are jealous and aren't gonna sell, so Dean says the three of them then went out and made them sell by wrestling stiff.
Seems about right. Wonder who suggested that one...
Joe-B
Striker
Looking back I don't mind it, I wasn't really shocked because I was half expecting it. It was going to happen eventually anyway like. Agree that I felt like a kid again watching R Evolution, they could make it even better by signing The Young Bucks but I don't think that will ever happen.
Reptilia
Heaven Branch
The bucks would be tremendous in NXT like I agree, can't see it though unfotunately.
On the topic of tag teams The Ascension are finally getting called up, looks like Vince has changed their character though, the vignette that aired on Smackdown was like a promo straight out of the 80's
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Joe-B
Striker
The bucks would be tremendous in NXT like I agree, can't see it though unfotunately.
On the topic of tag teams The Ascension are finally getting called up, looks like Vince has changed their character though, the vignette that aired on Smackdown was like a promo straight out of the 80's
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the walrus
Guest
Anyone staying up for TLC?
Only thing in arsed about is hopefully Rollins defeats cena and takes away his no. 1 contender shot. But then again #cenawinslol
Only thing in arsed about is hopefully Rollins defeats cena and takes away his no. 1 contender shot. But then again #cenawinslol
ChrisAshley
Striker
Kane interferes, Rollins beats down Cena, then Orton returns RKO's Rollins
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