Gus - Radio Ncle

[chriswallace85]

That's open to interpretation I suppose.

Whey to me, in October, it's a fuckin' daft thing to be even ask him. Of course nothing can be done at present about the personnel. Yes he can take responsibility for the team he picks, and he says as much, but he doesn't want to make excuses or take responsibility based on the fact that the squads thin. Fair enough.

Just listened to him on here...

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"You need to ask them (the players), I'm not going to answer for them." Made is laugh.

Assuming Reveillere signs we will have exactly the number of defenders that Gus stated he wanted from the outset. I doubt it will prevent him from playing this card in future, though. He could have used the development squad too. It was the perfect opportunity to develop a young player. Instead he brought on Bridcutt. That's an example of one reason why England fails to develop players.

From everything I've heard in Gus' comments during his time here I suspect that he's an absolute nightmare for Congerton. Hopefully the hierachy at the club just turn on their 'fiery latin' filter and ignore Gus' outbursts. I'd hate for his git big pie hole to talk him out of the job as he can do very well here if he learns to button it.

Trying to make sense of it, I think Gus did button it. He could have easily made more of the fact we didn't have enough defensive cover on the day.

What he definitely did not say was "I didn't buy the players so it's not my fault", which is what the OP was suggesting. He does take responsibility for picking them and motivating them. He works with what he's got.

 

[mondo_bongo]

Standard context cutting quotes . At the very worst what he said was slightly ambiguous.

He was asked a leading question by the interviewer, "You can''t really change much at the moment, you haven't got the personnel have you".

Responded fairly that with the defence he had very few options fit in the squad. He had four defenders and played what he had. The rest of it is pretty ambiguous rather than him openly shifting the blame for the match (it is a bit difficult to see his point when he is speaking sometimes).

He did follow it with "I accept this, it was me, I picked the team, I put it on the pitch, its my responsibility, I'll take it."

To me looks more like he is saying, OK I only had four defenders available, nothing I can do about that, but I take responsibility for the match / performance. Like I said though, a bit ambiguous. (probably all SEB, not sure why I'm even commenting on this )

Edit: See above post for a better written version of what I was trying to get at ^

 

[CARLOS CLASS]

In the long run, yes. In a one off like Saturday it's entirely the players' fault. He picked as close a team as he could to the one that played well and won the game before. Those players then proceeded to play like the biggest collection of mongs ever. A manager has very little influence over his players putting the ball into their own net in as spectactularly a stupid a manner as Vergini and Bridcutt managed.

The players wanted nothing to do with it after 3 nil, and that's down to them on the day.

I understand where you are coming from but the Manager cannot abdicate all responsibility.
It's up to him to ensure the mentality is right with the players. When you run a team you can sense it when people aren't switched on properly, you have to manage that.
He failed on Saturday

 

[mondo_bongo]

I understand where you are coming from but the Manager cannot abdicate all responsibility.
It's up to him to ensure the mentality is right with the players. When you run a team you can sense it when people aren't switched on properly, you have to manage that.
He failed on Saturday

"I accept this, it was me, I picked the team, I put it on the pitch, its my responsibility, I'll take it."

Just to repeat...

 

[richest]

Standard context cutting quotes . At the very worst what he said was slightly ambiguous.

He was asked a leading question by the interviewer, "You can''t really change much at the moment, you haven't got the personnel have you".

Responded fairly that with the defence he had very few options fit in the squad. He had four defenders and played what he had. The rest of it is pretty ambiguous rather than him openly shifting the blame for the match (it is a bit difficult to see his point when he is speaking sometimes).

He did follow it with "I accept this, it was me, I picked the team, I put it on the pitch, its my responsibility, I'll take it."

To me looks more like he is saying, OK I only had four defenders available, nothing I can do about that, but I take responsibility for the match / performance. Like I said though, a bit ambiguous. (probably all SEB, not sure why I'm even commenting on this )

Edit: See above post for a better written version of what I was trying to get at ^

Everyone said pre season not enough defenders.
and the ones we have ie Jones his signing is a sick note.

Managers fault. I didnt hear him mention that on Saturday.

 

[TartanMackem]

I understand where you are coming from but the Manager cannot abdicate all responsibility.
It's up to him to ensure the mentality is right with the players. When you run a team you can sense it when people aren't switched on properly, you have to manage that.
He failed on Saturday

There was nothing in our last showing to indicate that the team were going to have a bad day, quite the opposite. And they were fine until Vergini inexplicably kicked the ball in the wrong direction. We'd been the better side until then. After that they all lost the plot. One or two players losing it, you can deal with. Sub them off. The whole team? You're helpless against such a combined effort to take part in a comedy show.

What happened on Saturday was inexplicable. When the team was announced, most would have said "yea, that's about right". After the first 10-15 minutes, we looked to be giving a professional away performance. Then Vergini, an experienced professional who had just got back from representing a nation that were World Cup finalists only a few months ago, proceeded to provide one of the biggest "what the f***ing fuck!?" moments in the history of football, and the rest of the team decided to try and outdo him.

I'm not really sure what Gus could have done under the circumstances. You can't sub them all and there's only so many times you can shout "stop being f***ing idiots" at the players. The man on the sidelines can only do so much on the day, and on the day a group of experienced professionals each gave the most incompetent display of their lives. All at once.

If we get relegated, Gus will be massively responsible. But for Saturday it's the players who are responsible.

 

[stephen cartwright]

i did say i didnt hear what the op implied and have begun to doubt myself. it now appears i heard right.

 

[andymcnish]

Everyone said pre season not enough defenders.
and the ones we have ie Jones his signing is a sick note.

Managers fault. I didnt hear him mention that on Saturday.

It's not like. Even with an apostrophe. I can't see Gus sitting down with Congerton and saying 'what I really want are only 6 senior defenders for our squad'.

The only recent signings that might reasonably be put down as his 'fault' are Bridcutt, Scocco and Buckley.

The rest are down to Congerton (and our budget).

The lack of a second domestic loan signing is Congerton's fault as well...

 

[sksk3021]

It's not like. Even with an apostrophe. I can't see Gus sitting down with Congerton and saying 'what I really want are only 6 senior defenders for our squad'.

The only recent signings that might reasonably be put down as his 'fault' are Bridcutt, Scocco and Buckley.

The rest are down to Congerton (and our budget).

The lack of a second domestic loan signing is Congerton's fault as well...

How can you possibly say they are the only ones down to poyet?
Coates for a start he will have had at least a big say in.
Every single manager in the league has to work under constraints and to bring that up after that game is poor IMO.
The week before when we won it was his team.

 

[KarlM]

Bad vibes lads.

 

[andymcnish]

How can you possibly say they are the only ones down to poyet?
Coates for a start he will have had at least a big say in.
Every single manager in the league has to work under constraints and to bring that up after that game is poor IMO.
The week before when we won it was his team.

Well by the time you get to the last day of the bleeding window with zero domestic loans used and 5 senior defenders in the squad I imagine it's any defender with a pulse.
I find it very hard to imagine that Gus said to Congerton at the outset of the Summer window 'we really must loan Coates', don't you?

I don' think you quite understand the DoF model to be fair. Gus can veto players and also suggest targets, and if he has a link with a player due due knowing him personally then he might help out in clinching the deal, but all the rest is down to Lee - that's his job man.

 

[Sheep farmer]

The team on saturday was made up of players who have performed reasonably well up to date, quite often in the absence of Jones. The problem was motivation and gus seems to have accepted the responsibility for it. Depth of squad was not the issue nor did Gus suggest that it was

 

[sksk3021]

Well by the time you get to the last day of the bleeding window with zero domestic loans used and 5 senior defenders in the squad I imagine it's any defender with a pulse.
I find it very hard to imagine that Gus said to Congerton at the outset of the Summer window 'we really must loan Coates', don't you?

I don' think you quite understand the DoF model to be fair. Gus can veto players and also suggest targets, and if he has a link with a player due due knowing him personally then he might help out in clinching the deal, but all the rest is down to Lee - that's his job man.

Not really I reckon Gus will have been keen to get Coates in. He spoke about trying to bring a Uruguayan in and probably does know him.
I think you are underplaying his role in our transfer business.
Whether it's true or not doesn't really matter bringing it up after that defeat is poor either way IMO.