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Steve Bruce

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Durham FC said:
I work with supporters of I don't know how many teams and they regularly took the piss when he was in charge for us. He is one of those types that for whatever reason is universally disliked. Ask a Huddersfield, Sheffield Utd, Brum or Palace supporter what they think of him and 9 times out of 10 the answer won't be kind.
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Even the Wigan fans have very little time for him. He's not a terrible manager, but there's a very good reason why he's widely disliked by the fans of every club he's managed at except Hull.
 

Maravilla said:
Even the Wigan fans have very little time for him. He's not a terrible manager, but there's a very good reason why he's
widely disliked by the fans of every club he's managed at except Hull.
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Give it time.
 
Durham FC said:
Give it time.
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He'll have to do something spectacularly bad to be hated by them, got them unexpectedly promoted, to their first FA Cup final (I think?) and into Europe. It's the biggest achievement of his managerial career. He'll probably be sacked next season after a flop of a season (typical Bruce) but I think he's done enough to become a bit of a mini-hero there.
 
Bruce/Jardine make out as if it was months and months of abuse and intimidation. Bruce even says we threw darts at him and chased him out of the ground. It wasn't a nice thing to sing and was mostly condemned on here after, but the 'personal abuse' was literally one song of "Fat Geordie Bastard" sung once for less than 2 minutes by a minority. They need to grow thicker skin if that still bothers them 2 and a half years later.
 
G Force said:
I'm based down in London moonbeem. Most of my mates are non SAFC. Majority of people can see Bruce for what he is, you for whatever reason can't.

Maybe you're not so bright after all eh kidda?
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You'll pick the ones to suit your argument I don't know any fans who have a dislike for him apart from as I say teams who he has managed and left to progress and they become bitter about it.
He also seems to be pretty popular in football circles and is good mates with Quinny who is rightly revered on here.
I'm just not a bitter person I'm afraid people move on and that's life.Bruce is a little bitter but not to extent majority of our fans are.
 
Mrjardine said:
There has been many a post on here stating that Steve Bruce claims to have been sacked for being a Geordie .I really don't need to trawl through posts to find that as we all know it's been incorrectly attributed to him.
When I say he's known nothing other than sweetness and light I meant from a professional standpoint.Great success as player and captain of Man Utd and he has never been hounded by a current employers fans like he was here.Hes naturally going to cop a fair bit from likes of Man City and Liverpool due to his United links and imagine clubs he has left as a manager in an attempt to better himself are a little bitter towards him now as well but never while he was in charge and certainly not to extent he got here.
Tim Sherwood got booed.Huge difference between that and personal chants aimed at him mind.
As for this Ha ha thing how can you actually be quoted on that and even if he did have a wry smile so fuck.He got sacked in his opinion wrongfully and endured a load of abuse into the bargain. Trust me if that happened to me and I then went on to beat my ex employers 3 times they'd be getting a lot more than a chuckle aimed there way!
Fans only ever see it from there own blinkered point of view anybody who sways from that gets dogs abuse . Every pundit who predicts a sunderland defeat gets it on here,every media outlet that doesn't quite give us what the fans perceive to be adequate coverage in comparison to the big boys gets it for being biased,every referee who gives a dodgy call hates us and so on and so forth.This goes for every set of fans not just us by the way.
My point is that that Bruce has vented his spleen a little (not to the extent you'd think given comments on here) but so what? Given the chants and the numerous comments on here it only adds fuel to his argument that his roots became an issue.Ive said before if fans choose to dislike him because of his heritage that's fair enough just stop hiding behind this we aren't bothered about them they are obsessed with us persona because it's basically bollocks. We are equally as bad although not quite as delusional regarding expectation.
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Spot on - we had a poor record under him towards the end; but if he had not been a Geordie then the fans would not have turned as quickly or viciously as they did and the club would have had more time to consider it's options.

Some safc fans don't want to accept that, but it's the way it is. His roots may not have been the reason he was sacked but they did count against him and did speed up the "sacking process".
 
Flared Hicks said:
Murray made money available, Reid played Billy Big Bollocks at first refusing to pay the (highly inflated but market) going rate for a striker.

He then subsequently proceeded to spunk money away like a bairn in a ket shop. All with Murray's sanction admittedly but let's not rewrite the facts.

Nunez, Medina, Peeters etc all came in at a decent whack at that time and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
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The wages will have been down to Murray, why wouldnt a manager want to bring in the best?
Th names you mention and others were cheap players brought in in a desperate attempt to improve the team. Reid wasn't given the kind of funds needed to bring in quality. Nunez was a strange one mind.
 
Definitely Maybe said:
Bruce/Jardine make out as if it was months and months of abuse and intimidation. Bruce even says we threw darts at him and chased him out of the ground. It wasn't a nice thing to sing and was mostly condemned on here after, but the 'personal abuse' was literally one song of "Fat Geordie Bastard" sung once for less than 2 minutes by a minority. They need to grow thicker skin if that still bothers them 2 and a half years later.
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Surely not? :eek::lol:
 
Mrjardine said:
You'll pick the ones to suit your argument I don't know any fans who have a dislike for him apart from as I say teams who he has managed and left to progress and they become bitter about it.
He also seems to be pretty popular in football circles and is good mates with Quinny who is rightly revered on here.
I'm just not a bitter person I'm afraid people move on and that's life.Bruce is a little bitter but not to extent majority of our fans are.
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No bitterness from me twinkletoes. I just don't like to see people rewrite history, and ever stranger from one of our own.

Anyway off to throw some darts at my Bruce signed photo
 
James said:
He'll have to do something spectacularly bad to be hated by them, got them unexpectedly promoted, to their first FA Cup final (I think?) and into Europe. It's the biggest achievement of his managerial career. He'll probably be sacked next season after a flop of a season (typical Bruce) but I think he's done enough to become a bit of a mini-hero there.
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Fair point but IMHO he has spectacularly bad in his locker. Mind if and when it goes tits up they will have a fruit cake owner to blame so he may escape the supporters ire.
 
To be fair, it's quite pathetic that there is a seventeen page thread on here about him and some safc fans still have gall to suggest that he's the obsessed one.
 
Mrjardine said:
You'll pick the ones to suit your argument I don't know any fans who have a dislike for him apart from as I say teams who he has managed and left to progress and they become bitter about it.
He also seems to be pretty popular in football circles and is good mates with Quinny who is rightly revered on here.
I'm just not a bitter person I'm afraid people move on and that's life.Bruce is a little bitter but not to extent majority of our fans are.
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I don't think a majority of our fans are bitter over Steve Bruce, I doubt a majority give a toss about it.
 
Sweeper said:
Spot on - we had a poor record under him towards the end; but if he had not been a Geordie then the fans would not have turned as quickly or viciously as they did and the club would have had more time to consider it's options.

Some safc fans don't want to accept that, but it's the way it is. His roots may not have been the reason he was sacked but they did count against him and did speed up the "sacking process".
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That's bollocks. The fans never turned quickly or viciously on Bob Stokoe and we never turned on Bob Mncur when he came to captain Sunderland. Or Bracewell or Pop Robson when they left to go to the Mags and came back to us! There are a multitude of players and managers who have been associated with us and Newcastle without a problem so your argument does not hold water.
 
zinedine said:
The wages will have been down to Murray, why wouldnt a manager want to bring in the best?
Th names you mention and others were cheap players brought in in a desperate attempt to improve the team. Reid wasn't given the kind of funds needed to bring in quality. Nunez was a strange one mind.
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Medina was £3.5m which was a fortune back then, Nunez £1.6 million, Fredgaard £1.5m then we move through to the likes of Laslandes £3.6 m, Flo nearly £7m. I'm not counting the likes of Thome, Reyna etc as I think we got value from them, but there's no way you can say that Reidy didn't have the dosh to hoy around, or a nice friendly agent to put them all through ...
 
bagpiperay said:
That's bollocks. The fans never turned quickly or viciously on Bob Stokoe and we never turned on Bob Mncur when he came to captain Sunderland. Or Bracewell or Pop Robson when they left to go to the Mags and came back to us! There are a multitude of players and managers who have been associated with us and Newcastle without a problem so your argument does not hold water.
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Different fans in a different era - the abuse he took was no doubt cooked up by the same knackers who brought us such other witty banter as "Steven Taylor we wish you were dead". Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that the abuse Steve Bruce took was (i) way over the top and (ii) linked to his birthplace as well as his job performance is either lying or didnt see/hear it. I don't like the bloke and I don't think he was very good at his job, but I'll stop short of lying about what happened to him here. For what it's worth, I think his Geordie roots only sped up his demise here; he would have finished digging his own hole if left to his own devices.
 
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Definitely Maybe said:
Bruce/Jardine make out as if it was months and months of abuse and intimidation. Bruce even says we threw darts at him and chased him out of the ground. It wasn't a nice thing to sing and was mostly condemned on here after, but the 'personal abuse' was literally one song of "Fat Geordie Bastard" sung once for less than 2 minutes by a minority. They need to grow thicker skin if that still bothers them 2 and a half years later.
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If steve looks in the mirror he'll see a fat geordie, so the only abuse was calling him a bastard. Bruce was sacked for being a poor manager. He got a little bit stick towards then end but it was less stick than the likes of pardew and fat Sam are getting now for doing a better job.
 
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