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I'm backing Poyet.

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K1W1M4CK3M said:
What did happen was we were 0-0 with 25+ to go and a fresh Borini and Johnson coming on, what Poyet couldn't plan for was the colossal fuck up that was Cattermole. It hurts, it sucks but it happened.

He also has to deal with the realities of the game and that Prem survival requires a fit and functional squad of players, one person doesn't make the CF position. The manager HAS to deal with what ifs, or is injury of the likes of Johnson and Borini not a possibility, at all - ever?[DOUBLEPOST=1394537722][/DOUBLEPOST]

Humiliating for Cattermole yes, hardly for the team - although a loss is hard for any competitive person to take, a professional however should deal with it.[DOUBLEPOST=1394537804][/DOUBLEPOST]

That assumes Scocco and Fletcher don't want to get fit, play and form partnerships.[DOUBLEPOST=1394538002][/DOUBLEPOST]

Yet if he'd won, given scocco and Fletcher vital gametime he'd have been a tactical genius. Not far off it till Cattermole fucked up.
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Oh do fuck off. All of them barring the keeper were f***ing terrible. We were already 1-0 down due to O'Shea f***ing up.
 

dirty bristow said:
What if? What if? What if?
We were f***ing shit on Sunday due to team selection
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And that team selection was a result of the What Ifs.[DOUBLEPOST=1394549672][/DOUBLEPOST]
dirty bristow said:
Why you banging on about Borini for?
Are we absolutely gonna stay up cos we went out of the FA cup? Yes or no.
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Would we absolutely have won had we started a full strength team v Hull?[DOUBLEPOST=1394549811][/DOUBLEPOST]
Kentuckian said:
I have already provided u with a perfectly reasonable way Poyet could have managed the whole situation a whole lot better. Considering the underuse of some of our best players its obvious. And if the team couldnt be up for getting a point at home to swansea to stay up they should give up football.
Accept it-Poyets just made the Palace game twice as difficult by giving up on the Cup run.
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Or twice as easy by resting key players.

Easy this meaningless hyperbole lark.
 
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not spavin said:
And that team selection was a result of the What Ifs.[DOUBLEPOST=1394549672][/DOUBLEPOST]

Would we absolutely have won had we started a full strength team v Hull?[DOUBLEPOST=1394549811][/DOUBLEPOST]

Or twice as easy by resting key players.

Easy this meaningless hyperbole lark.
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The chances would increase.
I feel you and Keswick really have not benefitted from missing London last weekend.
 
Thurston said:
I've lost respect for Poyet after the weekend. It's the beginning of the end for him.
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Fingers are crossed. Of course I don't wan't him to fail. He already has. He is for me totally lost now as a manager. He has run out of ideas. He needs to go. We need Steve Clarke in.
 
not spavin said:
He can't get carried away by the lure of Wembley. He's trying to build something here, and a huge part of that relies on us being in the top flight.

We can't prioritise everything. He was right to rest key players yesterday, the FA Cup right now is a luxury we cannot afford.

It's too early in Poyet's tenure to chase silverware, but the fact that we're even talking about it - this season of all seasons - should give those laying into him pause for reflection.

We've had the best cup runs in decades. If you let cups be the reason you turn on Poyet, you need to have a word with yourself.

Here's to the real battle.
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Common. f***ing. Sense.

It won't make a difference though, moans and groans at the first misplaced pass if we're not ahead within 25 minutes on Saturday. Guaranteed.
 
Nelson! said:
Common. f***ing. Sense.

It won't make a difference though, moans and groans at the first misplaced pass if we're not ahead within 25 minutes on Saturday. Guaranteed.
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He here is, trying to paint all Sunderland fans black while he sits 4000 miles away in his ivory tower. Fuck off you spenk.
 
prehab26 said:
The fact is we had better, more experienced players to use with no other game for another week. We never used them and looked disjointed and unstructured. That is Poyet's fault and thats prety absolute TBH.
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He made plenty changes last round against a better team and we went through. This "no game for a week" stuff is completely missing the point. We already have 3 games to catch up on, the players will run out of steam eventually if they keep starting every game and we clearly don't want to be relying on the fringe players to keep us up.[DOUBLEPOST=1394564015][/DOUBLEPOST]
dirty bristow said:
He here is, trying to paint all Sunderland fans black while he sits 4000 miles away in his ivory tower. Fuck off you spenk.
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Are you saying there won't be audible moans and groans should that scenario happen?

I might be 4000 miles away (not really sure why you're so concerned about that) but I can take a defeat on the chin without having to go in a huff with the manager.
 
I don't see how this can still rage on. We had a chance to go to Wembley for a semi final with the possibility of league one opposition. We played a weakened team and got humped 3 f***ing nil off pillow pyatt.

Just totally unacceptable.
 
For me, following football is only worth it for the fleeting ecstatic highs that you get and as a squad it was decided not to pursue that and instead follow the money and safe bet.

Yes, it makes sense , but it's not what fans are in the game for and personally I think we should have gone for what especially would now be a relatively easy chance to win a cup (in the context of only ever winning it twice, and being in the semi final with only one team above us in the league).

I've heard all the arguments so not looking to enter a debate about it, that's just my opinion
 
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