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...or the 3rd reason is that the coaching is miles better.

I'll not beat about the bush here, I thought that CLS CC fostered a very poor atmosphere - and the tone was set at the top and by 1 person in particular - and one or two others followed his lead.

However dont look at the parents and players for anything other than positive comments from me as they were brilliant (best of luck to Q, Smithy and the first team at The Oval). A lot of the people who support the club I've known for donkeys years and are salt of the earth. They are the people that the bairn and I will miss.

TBF if I was the only parent to have taken their kid away from CLS CC then you could do a bit of finger pointing at me but when it gets to the 10th kid whose left to go to say AP CC, for the same reasons as me and my lad, then you need to look closer to home at where the problem lies. [DOUBLEPOST=1378146691][/DOUBLEPOST]The lad we're talking about is Sol Bell. A massive talent. His Dad is a really nice bloke too (SAFC fan ;)).

Not finger pointing in the slightest. As I've said, I just point out a different perspective.

I've been at a bad club, a very bad club and very, very bad officals and I can only speak as I see it. I can't accept as kids leaving as a reason CLS is a bad club. CLS loose players then get other players from other clubs, are all the clubs kids move from bad? We used to loose them at our last club but I suppose its a case of finding a club thats a right fit, I think I've found it in CLS. I would guess that because your son is at APCC another kid can no longer get into the team so has moved on. Does that make APCC a bad club? I would hazzard a guess that a few parents think so if 10 from CLS have signed!

I have heard that APCC is excellent at coaching young players, but again from my perspective what CLS offer far out weighs what our last club offered. In fact for any worthwhile coaching we used to train with DCCC during the winter.

I'm not judging in the slightest when I raise these points and understand that something personal has gone on, which is between you and the club, but I will defend CLS because as I said, if you think it really is such a bad club you have been spoilt. I refer to my PM and what I had to endure!!!
 

In what way is the coaching different at APCC?
The people who coached the U11's and U13s have never to my knowledge played the game to any degree and I wasnt even sure what coaching badges they had. I have absolutely no idea the last time that any of them went to a coaching session run by say the DCB. I neednt say what APCC has; everyone knows.

If youre looking at ways in which things could be improved then the first thing I'd say is make sure that cricket clubs take departures with good grace. I was called worse than shite by the coaches for doing a simple thing like taking an 11 year old bairn from a cricket club. The U11 coach told me that if it was up to him he would have barred me from the ground (thats "barred from the ground" by the way). The U13 coach was worse and sent me an e-mail a full week after the bairn had left full of "how dare you this" and "how dare you that".

It was utterly cringeworthy. Frankly embarrassing. All it did was prove why I was right to leave. They knew and so did everyone else that neither the bairn nor I were happy at the club. They also knew that I didnt rate their coaching. If it came as some sort of surprise to them then they clearly werent reading the signs.

They even went so far as to slag me off to all and sundry to the degree that when I saw some people from the cricket club next some of them didnt even speak to me. It is pathetic and unnecessary. Fair enough kids leaving cricket clubs causes a degree of reputational damage but that is not my doing. You dont take kids away from clubs where they are happy at.

They had their say - behind my back. I've had my say on here - very publically.[DOUBLEPOST=1378150171][/DOUBLEPOST]
Not finger pointing in the slightest. As I've said, I just point out a different perspective.

I've been at a bad club, a very bad club and very, very bad officals and I can only speak as I see it. I can't accept as kids leaving as a reason CLS is a bad club. CLS loose players then get other players from other clubs, are all the clubs kids move from bad? We used to loose them at our last club but I suppose its a case of finding a club thats a right fit, I think I've found it in CLS. I would guess that because your son is at APCC another kid can no longer get into the team so has moved on. Does that make APCC a bad club? I would hazzard a guess that a few parents think so if 10 from CLS have signed!

I have heard that APCC is excellent at coaching young players, but again from my perspective what CLS offer far out weighs what our last club offered. In fact for any worthwhile coaching we used to train with DCCC during the winter.

I'm not judging in the slightest when I raise these points and understand that something personal has gone on, which is between you and the club, but I will defend CLS because as I said, if you think it really is such a bad club you have been spoilt. I refer to my PM and what I had to endure!!!
When 10 leave for the same reasons to go to the same club then it raises eyebrows with some people. What particularly grated on me was thatsome kids left and not a word was said. The bairn leaves and we're called worse than shite. Clearly they took the hump for some reason. Bewildering.

The whole thing is a farce but shows how vindictive some people can be. Clearly rattled.[DOUBLEPOST=1378150606][/DOUBLEPOST]
......if you think it really is such a bad club you have been spoilt. I refer to my PM and what I had to endure!!!
Actually I'll respond to that point if I may. I think that having been at one club then youre a bit more street wise when you move to the next. Clearly this was the bairns first cricket club and as you can see I've clearly learnt a lot. Any mistakes i made at the bairns first club clearly wont be repeated.

CLS CC had a clear choice when the bairn left. They could have taken it with good grace and wished everyone all the best or thrown toys out of the pram. They chose the latter.[DOUBLEPOST=1378156616][/DOUBLEPOST]
You're completely right and it's the balance that is the key. Some clubs don't have the balance right and there is a problem if this is the case. Done in the right way talented individuals will have the chance to progress through the ranks at a club they enjoy playing at. It is for the club to decide if they want to play players who are just happy to play at a certain level. It is vital however that clubs have a pathway for talented kids to progress through their club. I can say that in the example you have given there is a lot more than meets the eye.

I have a lot of connections at CLS CC and watch a lot of cricket there. I can vouch to all on here that your son is an excellent player with a big future ahead of himself! I am not connected as such to any club and take interest in cricket all over the county but know a lot more about CLS than any other club.
I think I've said enough now but I've clearly moved this from the private domain into the pubic one. CLS CC will be aware of this thread and they now know that a lot of cricket fans in the NE know how badly an 11 year old boy and his family have been treated by them for doing no more than leaving their cricket club. At some point Harry may either play for APCC at Ropery Lane or if he is very lucky play there for the County at that ground - which BTW is 100 yards from our front door.

I will be extremely disappointed if the bairn and our family are not welcomed back by CLS CC and would clearly let people know one way or the other.
 
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If youre looking at ways in which things could be improved then the first thing I'd say is make sure that cricket clubs take departures with good grace. I was called worse than shite by the coaches for doing a simple thing like taking an 11 year old bairn from a cricket club. The U11 coach told me that if it was up to him he would have barred me from the ground (thats "barred from the ground" by the way). The U13 coach was worse and sent me an e-mail a full week after the bairn had left full of "how dare you this" and "how dare you that".

It was utterly cringeworthy. Frankly embarrassing. All it did was prove why I was right to leave. They knew and so did everyone else that neither the bairn nor I were happy at the club. They also knew that I didnt rate their coaching. If it came as some sort of surprise to them then they clearly werent reading the signs.

They even went so far as to slag me off to all and sundry to the degree that when I saw some people from the cricket club next some of them didnt even speak to me. It is pathetic and unnecessary. Fair enough kids leaving cricket clubs causes a degree of reputational damage but that is not my doing. You dont take kids away from clubs where they are happy at.

Thats outrageous if you ask me. Very poor imo.

I suppose when that happens you were right to do what you did - hope your youngun gans back and smashes them to all parts!!!
 
To be honest this thread proves to me that the best place to send your kids to play cricket are the smaller, more community based teams. Chester-le-Street is undoubtedly a great club, but a club with thriving bar who invests heavily to compete on a Saturday.

Just look at the top players to have come through Durham's ranks. Countless lads have come through the ranks in NTLSL and Coast League Clubs. The bigger clubs may well employ higher level coaches, but in my experience these lads take the fun out of it. Please don't forget that the whole point of playing cricket at a young age is enjoyment. You arent going to get that with some jumped up Cricket Officer running regimented drills more suited to professional teams.

I reckon you have made a great choice at the Plain. They are an excellent club and as other clubs should be run, their primary objective is to nurture kids to play for their senior teams, whilst having fun. I understand you going to Chester first it being your local club, but in a load of other instances I cringe when I see parents assuming these established Premier League clubs are the best place for their kids to develop. In most scenarios that really couldn't be any further from the truth.
 
To be honest this thread proves to me that the best place to send your kids to play cricket are the smaller, more community based teams. Chester-le-Street is undoubtedly a great club, but a club with thriving bar who invests heavily to compete on a Saturday.

Just look at the top players to have come through Durham's ranks. Countless lads have come through the ranks in NTLSL and Coast League Clubs. The bigger clubs may well employ higher level coaches, but in my experience these lads take the fun out of it. Please don't forget that the whole point of playing cricket at a young age is enjoyment. You arent going to get that with some jumped up Cricket Officer running regimented drills more suited to professional teams.

I reckon you have made a great choice at the Plain. They are an excellent club and as other clubs should be run, their primary objective is to nurture kids to play for their senior teams, whilst having fun. I understand you going to Chester first it being your local club, but in a load of other instances I cringe when I see parents assuming these established Premier League clubs are the best place for their kids to develop. In most scenarios that really couldn't be any further from the truth.

Thats a great post. Who would you rank as other NE clubs who do things the right way like APCC.
 
Thats a great post. Who would you rank as other NE clubs who do things the right way like APCC.


Dont know a huge amount about a lot of clubs but I think the number of players coming through the NTSL and Coast League speaks for itself. I have a NTSL background and to be honest most sides have a good set up. Some more successful than others but all provide a vehicle for kids to play lots of cricket, and it has been proven that they get a lot of chances in senior cricket if they are good enough. The likes of Annfield Plain, Sacriston, Shotley Bridge, Ashington, Lintz etc all have excellent set ups and have realised that without a thriving junior section, clubs will just cease to exist in the near future.
 
Anyone got any idea when the junior fixtures are coming out?
 
I've only just read this thread and although I've not been to huge amount of junior cricket games in recent years, I remember when I was growing up the emphasis was to get everyone involved, those of us who were good enough got given the chance to go to trials etc but the other lads were also made to feel part of a team by getting a bowl and a bat.

I've seen too many clubs up here have 3 very talented players, bat them 1,2,3 and make sure all 3 get there overs. And 5/6 lads doing nothing and not improving there games at all. Surely the good players will go on to improve there games either way?
 
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